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My guess is software engineers still have about 2-3 years of employment left. After that they will look like those switchboard operators who manually plugged c
by p1esk 2y ago
My guess is software engineers still have about 2-3 years of employment left. After that they will look like those switchboard operators who manually plugged cables to connect phone calls.
- infamouscow 2y agoThankfully, most of us aren't as stupid as you :) Respectfully, short of actually providing a shred of convincing evidence that isn't backed by your feelings, the plights of the mediocre are deserving of intense derision. Your idiotic demoralization of those starting their careers will not fester into the industry. The mods will ban my account here before than happens.
- gwoolhurme 2y agoThen quit now. Go find another job. Why do you feel that way? Give me something substantial instead of this.
- p1esk 2y agoI will probably be forced to go into SWE management then, something I don’t enjoy. Why do I feel this way? Because I expect significant improvement from Orion, and I don’t think it will stop improving after that.
- gtirloni 2y ago> Because I expect significant improvement from Orion Could you share the scientific basis for this expectation? Something other than pure hype from OpenAI would be good.
- p1esk 2y agoGoogle “llm scaling laws”.
- gwoolhurme 2y agoSWE management won’t be a thing either. Hopefully you can find another job.
- p1esk 2y agoWhen SWE management’s no longer a thing I’m afraid there won’t be many professions left. By that time I really hope we will have some sort if UBI, so at least we won’t starve to death.
- madamelic 2y agoHonestly... SWE management already is kind of already out-of-date and I say that as someone who is a SWE manager. Most software teams can pretty much run themselves and the only real use a SWE manager has imo is running interference because the rest of the company are morons and/or chaotic and being the gopher for things the team needs. I think a manager who isn't also participating in the work should be removed as they are a net-negative. If the rest of the company is calm and sane, in my opinion, you could have a team with senior+ ICs that take turns doing planning or doing a collaborative planning.
- gtirloni 2y ago> When SWE management’s no longer a thing You just said developers will be gone in 2-3 years. There won't be any humans to manage. Did you mean you'll be a SWE manager of LLMs?
- p1esk 2y agoDid you mean you'll be a SWE manager of LLMs? Yes, hopefully for a couple more years until such managers are themselves automated.