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I have requested my full archive download a couple of times over the last year and haven't been able to get it, which stinks. I keep trying to figure out a migr

I have requested my full archive download a couple of times over the last year and haven't been able to get it, which stinks. I keep trying to figure out a migration plan, but it seems daunting, especially with so many archived bookmarks. I love the service and want to keep using it, but the inability to get a backup archive makes me nervous.

creaktive 2y ago
Yep, stopped working for me years ago. Had to contact The Guy personally every single time, because my archive grew to 20GB. He’s not responsive for years tho :(
ww2supercut 2y ago
How are others storing their bookmarks now? I've moved to Google Sheets for some cases, but it's much less powerful
- atombender 2y ago
  Raindrop is fantastic: https://raindrop.io/ https://raindrop.io/.
  - bradbarrish 2y ago
    I also migrated from Pinboard to Raindrop and can confirm it's a great service, is updated regularly and while I've generally not received quick responses to questions or feedback, I do eventually. It's also worth mentioning that at least for iOS and MacOS, it has nice integrations that work well, which I could never say about Pinboard.
  - bananapub 2y ago
    $28/year, also "AI Suggestions" is the first item on the "Pro" features list. I'm sure it's a fine CRUD app but I don't really hold hope for it being a long term success.
    - elashri 2y ago
      This app added this AI feature recently. It is very successful for years before current LLM hype.
    - atombender 2y ago
      Raindrop is not a new app. I've been using it for about five years now. It's a solo developer project by one guy in Kazakhstan, which makes it all the more impressive. It has a great browser extension, a great desktop app (Electron-based, but very well done), and a great iOS mobile app (no idea about Android). It's also been under active development since I started using it. One of its best features is its app, which allows you to browse your bookmarks in a split pane. I've only checked out the AI feature now, since you mentioned it. I'm not a fan of pointless AI features that get added to apps, but this one is actually useful! It suggests places your bookmarks should be moved to. I had a bunch of stuff in an "Unsorted" folder, and it actually made really accurate suggestions for where they should be moved, and it also suggested moving some stuff I had miscategorized or where I had a more specific folder it could be in.
      - BobaFloutist 2y ago
        Honestly that's a rare good use case for AI: low stakes, passes through a human before anything actually happens, and is about ambiguos categorization based on human language.
        atombender 2y ago
        Agreed!
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
    I can vouch for that. I have been using it for many years.
  - Derbasti 2y ago
    I migrated from pinboard to raindrop this year, can confirm. I was on Pinboard's lifetime plan. No subscription, just a single payment of $15 back who knows when. A few years ago I was asked if I wouldn't rather pay $5 per month instead, and declined. I wonder if all the outages and throttling were a result of underestimating the running costs. Regardless, service quality had declined to such levels that I switched to raindrop this year. Ironically, raindrop is free to use, and may run into the same issue eventually.
    - 0xBDB 2y ago
      I got the same e-mail and also declined to move off the lifetime plan. I would have considered it to support the site but I could see where the owner's attention was going to be focused. Politics is a hell of a drug.
- djbusby 2y ago
  Homebuilt tool. Started when the Pocket BS in FF happened, just kept playing with it. It's a PWA/Share Target on mobile and an extension in my browser. Downside is I have to be online to use it.
- woodglyst 2y ago
  I got Anybox[0] with the lifetime subscription (40$) and have been happy with it (Only for Apple devices unfortunately) I can choose to automatically download a web archive when I bookmark. Also has a trial version. Can be a bit overwhelming to set things up. But works seamlessly once done. [0] https://anybox.app/ https://anybox.app/
- avhon1 2y ago
  Zotero with the browser plugin
  - retrobox 2y ago
    I’d never considered using a reference manager for bookmarks but looking at the feature set, it’s kinda perfect
- cxr 2y ago
  Firefox native bookmarks
- stock_toaster 2y ago
  I self host with linkding[1]. [1]: https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding
- HappMacDonald 2y ago
  My password manager doubles as my bookmark manager. I mean, it's already doing the one job on it's way to doing the other, so..
  - wlonkly 2y ago
    What do you do with, say, an article linked from HN that you want to refer to in future?
    - HappMacDonald 2y ago
      Copy link, create new site in pw manager, give it a memorable name, potentially put it into a folder or a collection. Tons easier than farting around with a google spreadsheet 8I

creaktive 2y ago

Yep, stopped working for me years ago. Had to contact The Guy personally every single time, because my archive grew to 20GB. He’s not responsive for years tho :(

ww2supercut 2y ago

How are others storing their bookmarks now? I've moved to Google Sheets for some cases, but it's much less powerful

atombender 2y ago
Raindrop is fantastic: https://raindrop.io/ https://raindrop.io/.
- bradbarrish 2y ago
  I also migrated from Pinboard to Raindrop and can confirm it's a great service, is updated regularly and while I've generally not received quick responses to questions or feedback, I do eventually. It's also worth mentioning that at least for iOS and MacOS, it has nice integrations that work well, which I could never say about Pinboard.
- bananapub 2y ago
  $28/year, also "AI Suggestions" is the first item on the "Pro" features list. I'm sure it's a fine CRUD app but I don't really hold hope for it being a long term success.
  - elashri 2y ago
    This app added this AI feature recently. It is very successful for years before current LLM hype.
  - atombender 2y ago
    Raindrop is not a new app. I've been using it for about five years now. It's a solo developer project by one guy in Kazakhstan, which makes it all the more impressive. It has a great browser extension, a great desktop app (Electron-based, but very well done), and a great iOS mobile app (no idea about Android). It's also been under active development since I started using it. One of its best features is its app, which allows you to browse your bookmarks in a split pane. I've only checked out the AI feature now, since you mentioned it. I'm not a fan of pointless AI features that get added to apps, but this one is actually useful! It suggests places your bookmarks should be moved to. I had a bunch of stuff in an "Unsorted" folder, and it actually made really accurate suggestions for where they should be moved, and it also suggested moving some stuff I had miscategorized or where I had a more specific folder it could be in.
    - BobaFloutist 2y ago
      Honestly that's a rare good use case for AI: low stakes, passes through a human before anything actually happens, and is about ambiguos categorization based on human language.
      - atombender 2y ago
        Agreed!
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
  I can vouch for that. I have been using it for many years.
- Derbasti 2y ago
  I migrated from pinboard to raindrop this year, can confirm. I was on Pinboard's lifetime plan. No subscription, just a single payment of $15 back who knows when. A few years ago I was asked if I wouldn't rather pay $5 per month instead, and declined. I wonder if all the outages and throttling were a result of underestimating the running costs. Regardless, service quality had declined to such levels that I switched to raindrop this year. Ironically, raindrop is free to use, and may run into the same issue eventually.
  - 0xBDB 2y ago
    I got the same e-mail and also declined to move off the lifetime plan. I would have considered it to support the site but I could see where the owner's attention was going to be focused. Politics is a hell of a drug.
djbusby 2y ago
Homebuilt tool. Started when the Pocket BS in FF happened, just kept playing with it. It's a PWA/Share Target on mobile and an extension in my browser. Downside is I have to be online to use it.
woodglyst 2y ago
I got Anybox[0] with the lifetime subscription (40$) and have been happy with it (Only for Apple devices unfortunately) I can choose to automatically download a web archive when I bookmark. Also has a trial version. Can be a bit overwhelming to set things up. But works seamlessly once done. [0] https://anybox.app/ https://anybox.app/
avhon1 2y ago
Zotero with the browser plugin
- retrobox 2y ago
  I’d never considered using a reference manager for bookmarks but looking at the feature set, it’s kinda perfect
cxr 2y ago
Firefox native bookmarks
stock_toaster 2y ago
I self host with linkding[1]. [1]: https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding
HappMacDonald 2y ago
My password manager doubles as my bookmark manager. I mean, it's already doing the one job on it's way to doing the other, so..
- wlonkly 2y ago
  What do you do with, say, an article linked from HN that you want to refer to in future?
  - HappMacDonald 2y ago
    Copy link, create new site in pw manager, give it a memorable name, potentially put it into a folder or a collection. Tons easier than farting around with a google spreadsheet 8I