So we agree on most important factor. You can get a great espresso from 5 times cheaper machine. This is what I was claiming. Price / performance, not worthy.

So we agree on most important factor. You can get a great espresso from 5 times cheaper machine. This is what I was claiming. Price / performance, not worthy. I mean, audiophiles are also buying audiophile routers (digital technology is irrelevant here) and audiophile stones ( https://www.adventuresinhifiaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Volcano-e1516984833483.jpg https://www.adventuresinhifiaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/201... ). There always needs to be someone that overpays things or we would have those 1250 euro machines for 250 euros when market instead of hype would start working.