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Blood, sweat and testes: rich men have always wanted to live forever

12 points by robaato 2y ago

nabla9 2y ago
Most people in advanced cultures seem to want that. What else Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, are except poor man's fantasy for everlasting life with some transitions. See Terror management theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory
- candiddevmike 2y ago
  The hypocrisy of some folks telling everyone to have a tough/difficult life and find salvation in heaven while they try and live forever to enjoy worldly possessions. Death will always be the great leveler, no matter what you believe or how much money you have, it's all back to the mud for everyone. I'll believe AI has sentience when it becomes concerned about being turned off.
  - snapplebobapple 2y ago
    I've known a lot of rich people and the reason to want to live forever is never to enjoy worldly possessions. It's always one of two reasons: 1. Control of whatever they have created to shepherd it into the future (sub category, my inheritors are going to fuck this up or only I can keep this following my vision, my inheritors probably won't destroy this but they will redirect it towards something I think is stupid) 2. They are smart enough to figure out they are just the software for the meat machine they are residing in and the meat machine is the old model that will get retired soon, which means the software will be shut off and deleted, which is way scarier than going to hell to many, so they want to avoid that outcome. It's never the pretty baubles they have collected over the years or the comfortable existence they are living.
melling 2y ago
I’m not rich and I want to live forever. Let’s skip the two most common comments. “Death gives life meaning” Not to worry, death is still optional “Only the rich will be able to afford it”. No, you are incorrect. Give it some additional thought.
- candiddevmike 2y ago
  I don't know about you but thinking about living forever (either alive or in an afterlife) gives me more of an existential crisis than the thought of post-death non-existence. Forever is an overwhelmingly long time.
  - melling 2y ago
    I wouldn't worry. A few hundred billion dollars isn't going to solve immortality. We've also got to cure heart disease, cancer(s), Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, etc along the way. If we could simply add an extra 30-50 years of healthspan, perhaps people will start to think differently about old age and life, in general. It would also be cool if Einstein were still alive and productive, for instance. Let's add Feynman, Hawking, Dirac, Weinberg...
- OutOfHere 2y ago
  I have developed and released an open source medical survey software to help solve real medical problems in ways that your doctor will never tell you: https://github.com/impredicative/newssurvey https://github.com/impredicative/newssurvey See the samples linked in the readme. It is very easy for someone to dismiss such software until it is too late. The trick is in applying beneficial practices early. Even so, the software will do its best to assist even in late stages.
eli_gottlieb 2y ago
I wish outlets like this would skip the rubbish philosophy of supposed immortality and just write: Eat the rich, class war now.
drooby 2y ago
Excuse my language but I can't help but think this is anything other than a stupid, racist, and sexist article.. Literally all races on earth care about anti-aging and have historically done so. Most women I know care more about anti-aging than the men I know. Blah blah blah rich white men blah blah blah
macrael 2y ago
At least they aren't forcing all of us to build pyramids for them yet
sys32768 2y ago
I wouldn't want to live in my flesh and blood through many more wars, collapses, depressions, dictatorships, invasions, extinctions, etc. On the other hand, I hope it was all a simulation so one day I will get unfettered access to insert myself into any time and place in the simulation with god mode access and no_clip.

12 points by robaato 2y ago

Most people in advanced cultures seem to want that. What else Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, are except poor man's fantasy for everlasting life with some transitions. See Terror management theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory

candiddevmike 2y ago
The hypocrisy of some folks telling everyone to have a tough/difficult life and find salvation in heaven while they try and live forever to enjoy worldly possessions. Death will always be the great leveler, no matter what you believe or how much money you have, it's all back to the mud for everyone. I'll believe AI has sentience when it becomes concerned about being turned off.
- snapplebobapple 2y ago
  I've known a lot of rich people and the reason to want to live forever is never to enjoy worldly possessions. It's always one of two reasons: 1. Control of whatever they have created to shepherd it into the future (sub category, my inheritors are going to fuck this up or only I can keep this following my vision, my inheritors probably won't destroy this but they will redirect it towards something I think is stupid) 2. They are smart enough to figure out they are just the software for the meat machine they are residing in and the meat machine is the old model that will get retired soon, which means the software will be shut off and deleted, which is way scarier than going to hell to many, so they want to avoid that outcome. It's never the pretty baubles they have collected over the years or the comfortable existence they are living.

melling 2y ago

I’m not rich and I want to live forever. Let’s skip the two most common comments. “Death gives life meaning” Not to worry, death is still optional “Only the rich will be able to afford it”. No, you are incorrect. Give it some additional thought.

candiddevmike 2y ago
I don't know about you but thinking about living forever (either alive or in an afterlife) gives me more of an existential crisis than the thought of post-death non-existence. Forever is an overwhelmingly long time.
- melling 2y ago
  I wouldn't worry. A few hundred billion dollars isn't going to solve immortality. We've also got to cure heart disease, cancer(s), Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, etc along the way. If we could simply add an extra 30-50 years of healthspan, perhaps people will start to think differently about old age and life, in general. It would also be cool if Einstein were still alive and productive, for instance. Let's add Feynman, Hawking, Dirac, Weinberg...
OutOfHere 2y ago
I have developed and released an open source medical survey software to help solve real medical problems in ways that your doctor will never tell you: https://github.com/impredicative/newssurvey https://github.com/impredicative/newssurvey See the samples linked in the readme. It is very easy for someone to dismiss such software until it is too late. The trick is in applying beneficial practices early. Even so, the software will do its best to assist even in late stages.

eli_gottlieb 2y ago

I wish outlets like this would skip the rubbish philosophy of supposed immortality and just write: Eat the rich, class war now.

drooby 2y ago

Excuse my language but I can't help but think this is anything other than a stupid, racist, and sexist article.. Literally all races on earth care about anti-aging and have historically done so. Most women I know care more about anti-aging than the men I know. Blah blah blah rich white men blah blah blah

macrael 2y ago

At least they aren't forcing all of us to build pyramids for them yet

sys32768 2y ago

I wouldn't want to live in my flesh and blood through many more wars, collapses, depressions, dictatorships, invasions, extinctions, etc. On the other hand, I hope it was all a simulation so one day I will get unfettered access to insert myself into any time and place in the simulation with god mode access and no_clip.