The interview subject almost mentions it, but it might have to do with this drek (in a celebratory piece from 2018) https://www.chronline.com/stor https://www.

The interview subject almost mentions it, but it might have to do with this drek (in a celebratory piece from 2018) https://www.chronline.com/stor https://www.chronline.com/stor ies/centralia-elementaries-look-to-new-curriculum-to-improve-literacy,17131 New Yorker piece from 2023 for context: https://archive.is/yIYuL https://archive.is/yIYuL