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Not in a million years. Men’s sexuality is a bad, no good, evil, unethical thing. All types of “objectification” have been deemed extremely unethical and immor

Not in a million years. Men’s sexuality is a bad, no good, evil, unethical thing. All types of “objectification” have been deemed extremely unethical and immoral. Progressives think you’re a horrible person if you take part in any kind of beauty pageant or other activity which causes objectification.

dragonwriter 2y ago
> Progressives think you’re a horrible person if you take part in any kind of beauty pageant or other activity which causes objectification. No, progressives in general don't. In fact, the assumption on which this attitude rests, that anything, particularly any clothing or activity of the target, causes objectification besides the choice of the objectifier is a conservative, victim-blaming viewpoint that is widely attacked by progressives.
- yieldcrv 2y ago
  thats what surprised me about the sf bay area’s “inclusion by exclusion” throughout last decade there were some women that wanted to excise the presence of other women, because they (purportedly) felt that men didnt take them seriously after being around the other women. but thats a problem with the particular men? it was masqueraded as progressive and was successful, they were the only women in tech representation and people didn't challenge the inconsistency
yieldcrv 2y ago
You jest, but it’s easy to retort using their same phrasing “that sounds gendered” and if it leads to them being unable to distinguish why it isn’t, then you get to call them sexist and they're out of your way and the company forever, you get to morph it to something more entertaining and libido inclusive alternate path is to talk about the importance of consent, nonconsensual objectification is bad, every objectionable action is okay if its consensual third path is to point out how they cant speak for the women involved, or how they neglected to elevate the voices of those most affected. many of which are very prideful of their work and are waiting for that kind of representation and allyship. the bonus here is that there likely are secret sex workers in your organization already, and they’ll reveal that to you after you use their even more progressive phrasing against the misandrist

dragonwriter 2y ago

> Progressives think you’re a horrible person if you take part in any kind of beauty pageant or other activity which causes objectification. No, progressives in general don't. In fact, the assumption on which this attitude rests, that anything, particularly any clothing or activity of the target, causes objectification besides the choice of the objectifier is a conservative, victim-blaming viewpoint that is widely attacked by progressives.

yieldcrv 2y ago
thats what surprised me about the sf bay area’s “inclusion by exclusion” throughout last decade there were some women that wanted to excise the presence of other women, because they (purportedly) felt that men didnt take them seriously after being around the other women. but thats a problem with the particular men? it was masqueraded as progressive and was successful, they were the only women in tech representation and people didn't challenge the inconsistency

yieldcrv 2y ago

You jest, but it’s easy to retort using their same phrasing “that sounds gendered” and if it leads to them being unable to distinguish why it isn’t, then you get to call them sexist and they're out of your way and the company forever, you get to morph it to something more entertaining and libido inclusive alternate path is to talk about the importance of consent, nonconsensual objectification is bad, every objectionable action is okay if its consensual third path is to point out how they cant speak for the women involved, or how they neglected to elevate the voices of those most affected. many of which are very prideful of their work and are waiting for that kind of representation and allyship. the bonus here is that there likely are secret sex workers in your organization already, and they’ll reveal that to you after you use their even more progressive phrasing against the misandrist