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Uber doesn’t have a self driving business anymore. That was shut down after they killed a person in Arizona during testing. They divested much of it into Aurora

by ra7 2y ago

Uber doesn’t have a self driving business anymore. That was shut down after they killed a person in Arizona during testing. They divested much of it into Aurora, which I believe Uber still has a stake in. How this makes sense for Uber is that they don’t want to be left out when robotaxis replace human-driven ride hailing vehicles.

Onavo 2y ago
Nah, they shut down their self driving car division because they needed a boring conservative safe pair of hands for operations and the current CEO wasn't much of a visionary unlike the founder. Say what you must about Kalanick being a frat boy but he embodied "move fast and break things" like no other.
- Atotalnoob 2y ago
  Woah man, this post seems a little out there. They killed someone. That should require a huge introspection and if needed, shut down unsafe lines of business. Their self driving car division was, by the accounts I read, never going to achieve self-driving and had serious problems. If being a visionary means you are okay with killing people, then fuck being a visionary. “Moving fast and breaking things” should NEVER include killing people.
  - jonas21 2y ago
    > That should require a huge introspection and if needed, shut down unsafe lines of business. Which line of business would that be? Maybe the one involving human drivers that leads to ~75 deaths per year [1]? Though that's still a lower-than-average death rate compared to the general population (so shutting it down without a replacement could cause even more deaths). You could argue that Uber has a moral imperative to replace its human drivers with automation as soon as possible. [1] https://uber.app.box.com/s/lea3xzb70bp2wxe3k3dgk2ghcyr687x3?uclick_id=f43f1de6-27ff-43ab-bd20-eaf23373b8b0 https://uber.app.box.com/s/lea3xzb70bp2wxe3k3dgk2ghcyr687x3?...
- alephnerd 2y ago
  Forgot about Waymo v Uber? https://waymo.com/blog/2017/02/a-note-on-our-lawsuit-against-otto-and/ https://waymo.com/blog/2017/02/a-note-on-our-lawsuit-against... https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/waymo-v-uber-surprise-settlement-five-days-into-trial https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/waymo-v-uber-surprise-se... https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/4/21354906/anthony-levandowski-waymo-uber-lawsuit-sentence-18-months-prison-lawsuit https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/4/21354906/anthony-levandows...

by ra7 2y ago

Onavo 2y ago

Nah, they shut down their self driving car division because they needed a boring conservative safe pair of hands for operations and the current CEO wasn't much of a visionary unlike the founder. Say what you must about Kalanick being a frat boy but he embodied "move fast and break things" like no other.

Atotalnoob 2y ago
Woah man, this post seems a little out there. They killed someone. That should require a huge introspection and if needed, shut down unsafe lines of business. Their self driving car division was, by the accounts I read, never going to achieve self-driving and had serious problems. If being a visionary means you are okay with killing people, then fuck being a visionary. “Moving fast and breaking things” should NEVER include killing people.
- jonas21 2y ago
  > That should require a huge introspection and if needed, shut down unsafe lines of business. Which line of business would that be? Maybe the one involving human drivers that leads to ~75 deaths per year [1]? Though that's still a lower-than-average death rate compared to the general population (so shutting it down without a replacement could cause even more deaths). You could argue that Uber has a moral imperative to replace its human drivers with automation as soon as possible. [1] https://uber.app.box.com/s/lea3xzb70bp2wxe3k3dgk2ghcyr687x3?uclick_id=f43f1de6-27ff-43ab-bd20-eaf23373b8b0 https://uber.app.box.com/s/lea3xzb70bp2wxe3k3dgk2ghcyr687x3?...
alephnerd 2y ago
Forgot about Waymo v Uber? https://waymo.com/blog/2017/02/a-note-on-our-lawsuit-against-otto-and/ https://waymo.com/blog/2017/02/a-note-on-our-lawsuit-against... https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/waymo-v-uber-surprise-settlement-five-days-into-trial https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/waymo-v-uber-surprise-se... https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/4/21354906/anthony-levandowski-waymo-uber-lawsuit-sentence-18-months-prison-lawsuit https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/4/21354906/anthony-levandows...