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I'm from small town called Liminka, it's next to Oulu in Finland. The sea freezes in the winter but that doesn't keep Liminka from being a legendary farming are

by nosse 14y ago

I'm from small town called Liminka, it's next to Oulu in Finland. The sea freezes in the winter but that doesn't keep Liminka from being a legendary farming area because of high crop yield. It's just warm enough to have good crops in the summer. The crops are of course not nearly as good as in Germany, but you cant find similar area from the same latitude in Russia or Canada. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Liminka.sijainti.suomi.2008.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Liminka....

vacri 14y ago
I don't question that cereals are grown there, but I do question the hypothesis that the gulf stream is responsible for making cereals viable via warming the Baltic. The author may be spot on with his cereal theory, but I'm not convinced by the suggested mechanism. The nascent fluid dynamicist in me doesn't see how a sea with only one tight opening can exchange enough water for a significant thermal exchange, one which would have to be pretty sizeable given the freezing. I could be wrong, but I do note that the 'gulf stream' graphic barely gets past Newfoundland, let alone showing the North Sea or the Baltic...
- rapala 14y ago
  For what I know, the gulf stream is not warming the Baltic ocean. It brings warmer water to the cost of Norway, which creates warmer weather in the northern Europe.
- nosse 14y ago
  I can't really say that I would have deep knowledge of this stuff. I do know however that Golf current does not come to the Baltic sea. It cannot, as it would just rise to water-level, no way to run through. But usually wind and weather comes from west. So as golf current warms up the coast of Norway, some of that warmth comes here. It's a weather pattern, but I don't seem to find a good picture now, sorry. http://www.weatherwise.org/sebin/x/a/russian-inferno-photo6.jpg http://www.weatherwise.org/sebin/x/a/russian-inferno-photo6.... I remember from geography class that we are in this climate zone and it's called a Hadley cell. And inside that cell air circulates, but it cannot really break away. So kind of Golf course breaks into that cell from below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadley_cell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadley_cell EDIT: sorry, lost in translation, I meant a Ferrel cell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_circulation#Ferrel_cell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_circulation#Ferrel_... Ans that's not very accurate as Finland seems to be in polar front.
- Retric 14y ago
  I am sure it's a balance of many forces; for example freezing an ocean releases a lot of energy so that in and of it's self would keep the area warmer than it would otherwise be.

by nosse 14y ago

vacri 14y ago

I don't question that cereals are grown there, but I do question the hypothesis that the gulf stream is responsible for making cereals viable via warming the Baltic. The author may be spot on with his cereal theory, but I'm not convinced by the suggested mechanism. The nascent fluid dynamicist in me doesn't see how a sea with only one tight opening can exchange enough water for a significant thermal exchange, one which would have to be pretty sizeable given the freezing. I could be wrong, but I do note that the 'gulf stream' graphic barely gets past Newfoundland, let alone showing the North Sea or the Baltic...

rapala 14y ago
For what I know, the gulf stream is not warming the Baltic ocean. It brings warmer water to the cost of Norway, which creates warmer weather in the northern Europe.
nosse 14y ago
I can't really say that I would have deep knowledge of this stuff. I do know however that Golf current does not come to the Baltic sea. It cannot, as it would just rise to water-level, no way to run through. But usually wind and weather comes from west. So as golf current warms up the coast of Norway, some of that warmth comes here. It's a weather pattern, but I don't seem to find a good picture now, sorry. http://www.weatherwise.org/sebin/x/a/russian-inferno-photo6.jpg http://www.weatherwise.org/sebin/x/a/russian-inferno-photo6.... I remember from geography class that we are in this climate zone and it's called a Hadley cell. And inside that cell air circulates, but it cannot really break away. So kind of Golf course breaks into that cell from below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadley_cell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadley_cell EDIT: sorry, lost in translation, I meant a Ferrel cell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_circulation#Ferrel_cell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_circulation#Ferrel_... Ans that's not very accurate as Finland seems to be in polar front.
Retric 14y ago
I am sure it's a balance of many forces; for example freezing an ocean releases a lot of energy so that in and of it's self would keep the area warmer than it would otherwise be.