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We’re talking about carbon emissions. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita?tab=chart&time=1970..latest https://ourworldindata.org/grapher

We’re talking about carbon emissions. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita?tab=chart&time=1970..latest https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita?t... You’ll notice that countries trying to reduce emissions are successfully doing so on a per capita basis. Countries which are not trying, aren’t. There you go, GP’s point empirically disproven.

paulcole 2y ago
Isn’t that per person and aren’t there more people than ever before? https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-greenhouse-gas-emissions https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-greenhouse-gas-emissions “Global emissions have increased rapidly over the last 50 years and have not yet peaked” If Denmark is trying but India and China aren’t, does it really matter lol?
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  The US and UK have reduced their annual CO2 emissions in absolute terms as well. Denmark's emissions move the needle exactly in proportion to Denmark's emissions. They alone won't save the world if India and China aren't reducing emissions, which is why we should be convincing them to reduce emissions, not throwing our hands in the air with totally non-factual claims like: > Any time you spend thinking or breath you spend talking about someone else’s carbon footprint is a total fool’s errand. This is demonstrably, unequivocally untrue. Thinking and breath spent talking about someone else's carbon footprint is reducing people's carbon footprints. I know cynicism and fatalism sounds cool to certain types of people, but it's generally intellectually lazy and in this case it makes you simply wrong. It's interesting how you're taking this position about how "people" always excuse their own behavior by pointing to larger polluters and therefore we're doomed, but what I see in the data is that plenty of people aren't engaging in that behavior. However, you are, and you're projecting that onto everyone else (despite clear evidence otherwise). You can simply choose not to :)
  - paulcole 2y ago
    Neat!

paulcole 2y ago

Isn’t that per person and aren’t there more people than ever before? https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-greenhouse-gas-emissions https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-greenhouse-gas-emissions “Global emissions have increased rapidly over the last 50 years and have not yet peaked” If Denmark is trying but India and China aren’t, does it really matter lol?

llamaimperative 2y ago
The US and UK have reduced their annual CO2 emissions in absolute terms as well. Denmark's emissions move the needle exactly in proportion to Denmark's emissions. They alone won't save the world if India and China aren't reducing emissions, which is why we should be convincing them to reduce emissions, not throwing our hands in the air with totally non-factual claims like: > Any time you spend thinking or breath you spend talking about someone else’s carbon footprint is a total fool’s errand. This is demonstrably, unequivocally untrue. Thinking and breath spent talking about someone else's carbon footprint is reducing people's carbon footprints. I know cynicism and fatalism sounds cool to certain types of people, but it's generally intellectually lazy and in this case it makes you simply wrong. It's interesting how you're taking this position about how "people" always excuse their own behavior by pointing to larger polluters and therefore we're doomed, but what I see in the data is that plenty of people aren't engaging in that behavior. However, you are, and you're projecting that onto everyone else (despite clear evidence otherwise). You can simply choose not to :)
- paulcole 2y ago
  Neat!