> I think a lot of people do things the hard way to learn large scale infrastructure Having seen some of these half-rolled, first-time-understood k8s deploymen

> I think a lot of people do things the hard way to learn large scale infrastructure Having seen some of these half-rolled, first-time-understood k8s deployments, and the multi-year projects to unravel the mess that was created, overflowing with anti-patterns and other incorrect ways of doing things, I think I would prefer a narrower scope of true experienced professionals (or at least some experienced pros that can help guide the ship for their mentees) working on and designing k8s infra. And for those that don't need it (the vast majority of startups, small businesses, regular-sized businesses, etc), just stick to the easier-to-use paradigms out there.