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Education level is less important than equality is. Marriage is traditionally a terrible bargain for women, but it was the only choice they were allowed to mak

Education level is less important than equality is. Marriage is traditionally a terrible bargain for women, but it was the only choice they were allowed to make. Now, they can make their money and buy property and have kids on their own. A lot of men haven't realized the era of the provider is over and dead, and they're now optional. They have to make women want to be with them, and a lot of women just aren't willing to compromise on equality these days.

huuhee3 2y ago
Good luck buying a family home as a single mom with today's property prices. Really it's a rich person thing, not available to ordinary women.
- trashtester 2y ago
  It may seem like this makes sense, but in most places it's the opposite. Low income women are single mothers at a higher rate than women with high salaries. In most western countries, low income women do not become much poorer if they become single mothers. In some places, it increases their living standards. But for upper middle class families, a breakup tends to be costly. Also, there seems to be shared causal factors that lead to both stable relationships and financial stability. Such as impulse control, mental/physical health and the ability to postpone gratification.
- habinero 2y ago
  You don't need a house to have kids. Plenty of people don't and they do just fine. And if they're choosing to have a kid on their own, they've planned out finances, too. Fertility treatments aren't cheap.
beaglesss 2y ago
>lot of men haven't realized the era of the provider is over and dead, and they're now optional. Cool, child support and alimony optional now. Right? Because it's always easy to be independent with OPM. People forget single moms became far more practiced after the state incentivized breaking up families.
- habinero 2y ago
  Why does that matter if they don't marry anyone? They control the means of reproduction, after all.
  - beaglesss 2y ago
    Whether they have a marriage certificate might not matter, but the stats are clear that children raised by single moms are correlated with a lot of bad outcomes including far more likely to end up victims of the prison industrial complex. If you only give a shit about yourself and not your offspring, maybe that doesn't matter

huuhee3 2y ago

Good luck buying a family home as a single mom with today's property prices. Really it's a rich person thing, not available to ordinary women.

trashtester 2y ago
It may seem like this makes sense, but in most places it's the opposite. Low income women are single mothers at a higher rate than women with high salaries. In most western countries, low income women do not become much poorer if they become single mothers. In some places, it increases their living standards. But for upper middle class families, a breakup tends to be costly. Also, there seems to be shared causal factors that lead to both stable relationships and financial stability. Such as impulse control, mental/physical health and the ability to postpone gratification.
habinero 2y ago
You don't need a house to have kids. Plenty of people don't and they do just fine. And if they're choosing to have a kid on their own, they've planned out finances, too. Fertility treatments aren't cheap.

beaglesss 2y ago

>lot of men haven't realized the era of the provider is over and dead, and they're now optional. Cool, child support and alimony optional now. Right? Because it's always easy to be independent with OPM. People forget single moms became far more practiced after the state incentivized breaking up families.

habinero 2y ago
Why does that matter if they don't marry anyone? They control the means of reproduction, after all.
- beaglesss 2y ago
  Whether they have a marriage certificate might not matter, but the stats are clear that children raised by single moms are correlated with a lot of bad outcomes including far more likely to end up victims of the prison industrial complex. If you only give a shit about yourself and not your offspring, maybe that doesn't matter