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dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41526074 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41526074

by gorbachev 2y ago

hashtag-til 2y ago
Any idea why the previous is flagged?
- mandmandam 2y ago
  [flagged]
- pvg 2y ago
  Most company personnel changes are not particularly interesting (in the sense of there's not much 'intellectually curious' conversation to be had about them) and are also extensively covered and discussed elsewhere.
  - mandmandam 2y ago
    This story is clearly interesting to the community, or the original wouldn't have gotten 40 points in an hour at night time. There was absolutely nothing toxic going on in the comments either. Calling it a "personnel change" is also reading as brazenly disingenuous.
    - pvg 2y ago
      the original wouldn't have gotten 40 points Everything is interesting to someone and HN doesn't really work strictly by points, you can find explanations of this in lots of the moderator commentary and in the site faq under 'how are stories ranked'. Calling it a "personnel change" is also reading as brazenly disingenuous. That is certainly one exciting reading.
      - mandmandam 2y ago
        > HN doesn't really work strictly by points People were interested nonetheless. 216 points on this post with 89 comments is pretty conclusive, strict point system or no. > That is certainly one exciting reading. Accurate too.
        pvg 2y ago
        216 points on this post with 89 comments is pretty conclusive Lots of things with piles of points and comments are poor HN submissions. Happens all the time and is not in any way conclusive. That's basically the explanation, for there to be some kind of conclusion you'd have to make an argument that isn't about points and comments of a thing that's on the fp. Everything on the fp gets points and comments.
        mandmandam 2y ago
        I didn't want to "quote the old magic" to you, but this story is squarely within the HN guidelines. It's interesting, stimulating, important, tech related, true, timely etc. The argument that a games company losing their entire staff to resignations isn't 'suitable' because "most company personnel changes are not particularly interesting" is false equivalence. This thread is full of comments describing what people are finding interesting about this. Dismissing that with 'every fp story has comments' is a really odd and (dare I say) out-of-character move.
        bschmidt1 2y ago
        I agree with you and I know a lot of other people do too but are afraid to speak up in support. Really sick of the arbitrary censorship on this site.
      - hashtag-til 2y ago
        I think this is incredibly relevant for HN readers, maybe seen as "subversive" by _bosses_.
        pvg 2y ago
        Yes, for every single thing posted on HN, someone thinks it's "incredibly relevant". It could well be! But that in itself doesn't tell you anything. maybe seen as "subversive" by _bosses_. I don't see it on the agenda in any recent or upcoming boss meeting.
    - bschmidt1 2y ago
      HN mods are just as biased/arbitrary (and terrible) as the worst Reddit mods. The two companies are basically one-in-the-same as they are both deeply backed by MIT and thus the CIA/military intelligence apparatus. Both HackerNews and Reddit are interested in shutting down conversation/information.

dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41526074 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41526074

hashtag-til 2y ago

Any idea why the previous is flagged?

mandmandam 2y ago
[flagged]
pvg 2y ago
Most company personnel changes are not particularly interesting (in the sense of there's not much 'intellectually curious' conversation to be had about them) and are also extensively covered and discussed elsewhere.
- mandmandam 2y ago
  This story is clearly interesting to the community, or the original wouldn't have gotten 40 points in an hour at night time. There was absolutely nothing toxic going on in the comments either. Calling it a "personnel change" is also reading as brazenly disingenuous.
  - pvg 2y ago
    the original wouldn't have gotten 40 points Everything is interesting to someone and HN doesn't really work strictly by points, you can find explanations of this in lots of the moderator commentary and in the site faq under 'how are stories ranked'. Calling it a "personnel change" is also reading as brazenly disingenuous. That is certainly one exciting reading.
    - mandmandam 2y ago
      > HN doesn't really work strictly by points People were interested nonetheless. 216 points on this post with 89 comments is pretty conclusive, strict point system or no. > That is certainly one exciting reading. Accurate too.
      - pvg 2y ago
        216 points on this post with 89 comments is pretty conclusive Lots of things with piles of points and comments are poor HN submissions. Happens all the time and is not in any way conclusive. That's basically the explanation, for there to be some kind of conclusion you'd have to make an argument that isn't about points and comments of a thing that's on the fp. Everything on the fp gets points and comments.
        mandmandam 2y ago
        I didn't want to "quote the old magic" to you, but this story is squarely within the HN guidelines. It's interesting, stimulating, important, tech related, true, timely etc. The argument that a games company losing their entire staff to resignations isn't 'suitable' because "most company personnel changes are not particularly interesting" is false equivalence. This thread is full of comments describing what people are finding interesting about this. Dismissing that with 'every fp story has comments' is a really odd and (dare I say) out-of-character move.
        bschmidt1 2y ago
        I agree with you and I know a lot of other people do too but are afraid to speak up in support. Really sick of the arbitrary censorship on this site.
    - hashtag-til 2y ago
      I think this is incredibly relevant for HN readers, maybe seen as "subversive" by _bosses_.
      - pvg 2y ago
        Yes, for every single thing posted on HN, someone thinks it's "incredibly relevant". It could well be! But that in itself doesn't tell you anything. maybe seen as "subversive" by _bosses_. I don't see it on the agenda in any recent or upcoming boss meeting.
  - bschmidt1 2y ago
    HN mods are just as biased/arbitrary (and terrible) as the worst Reddit mods. The two companies are basically one-in-the-same as they are both deeply backed by MIT and thus the CIA/military intelligence apparatus. Both HackerNews and Reddit are interested in shutting down conversation/information.