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Even if it is a Nobel prize winner like Jennifer Doudna?

hughesjj 2y ago
I don't know who that is but applying my heuristic, yes, I'd assume so. It's a heuristic, not a conviction. Generally I don't bother to listen to the TED talks anymore and I'm much more distrustful in my priors than "normal" for anyone I see giving one. That said it's not like I'm going to dismiss someone with otherwise solid credentials out of hand just because they gave a TED talk, but it still lowers my trust. Really depends on what you're trying to use the info for. I'm not a researcher so it's not like this affects my day job, and if I was I'd like to think I'd dive into the sources rather than ever just taking someone for their word. That's like the equivalent of copy pasting some code you found on discord into your production app.
guappa 2y ago
Well the guy who invented lobotomy got one of those. Or the guy who invented microcredit. To not even venture in the peace nobel prizes area, where getting one is probably indicative of being evil.
- adastra22 2y ago
  I mean the Nobel committee gave the Peace prize to Kissinger. I’m not sure they’re a good bellwether for anything.
  - seanhunter 2y ago
    Tom Lehrer famously retired when Kissinger got the peace prize declaring satire to be dead. The really funny one to me is they gave literature to Winston Churchill because they thought they probably couldn't give him peace, then when Kissinger came up they thought "Why not?"
    - FergusArgyll 2y ago
      Churchill's autobiography [0] is actually a great read. I'm nowhere near qualified to judge a literature Nobel prize but I loved it. His history of the English speaking peoples is pretty good too. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Early_Life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Early_Life
- protomolecule 2y ago
  >Well the guy who invented lobotomy got one of those. Yeah, and when you see a Nobel prize winner you must be assuming it's a bullshit grifter.
RachelF 2y ago
It's hard to generalize. The whole field of behavioural intelligence has lots of fake/unrepeatable studies. Even Kahneman, who got a Economics Nobel has this issue: https://retractionwatch.com/2017/02/20/placed-much-faith-underpowered-studies-nobel-prize-winner-admits-mistakes/ https://retractionwatch.com/2017/02/20/placed-much-faith-und...
- protomolecule 2y ago
  Yep, it's hard, that's why sometimes it's better not to overgeneralize. But sure, that field is full if unreproducible "research".

I don't know who that is but applying my heuristic, yes, I'd assume so. It's a heuristic, not a conviction. Generally I don't bother to listen to the TED talks anymore and I'm much more distrustful in my priors than "normal" for anyone I see giving one. That said it's not like I'm going to dismiss someone with otherwise solid credentials out of hand just because they gave a TED talk, but it still lowers my trust. Really depends on what you're trying to use the info for. I'm not a researcher so it's not like this affects my day job, and if I was I'd like to think I'd dive into the sources rather than ever just taking someone for their word. That's like the equivalent of copy pasting some code you found on discord into your production app.

guappa 2y ago

Well the guy who invented lobotomy got one of those. Or the guy who invented microcredit. To not even venture in the peace nobel prizes area, where getting one is probably indicative of being evil.

adastra22 2y ago
I mean the Nobel committee gave the Peace prize to Kissinger. I’m not sure they’re a good bellwether for anything.
- seanhunter 2y ago
  Tom Lehrer famously retired when Kissinger got the peace prize declaring satire to be dead. The really funny one to me is they gave literature to Winston Churchill because they thought they probably couldn't give him peace, then when Kissinger came up they thought "Why not?"
  - FergusArgyll 2y ago
    Churchill's autobiography [0] is actually a great read. I'm nowhere near qualified to judge a literature Nobel prize but I loved it. His history of the English speaking peoples is pretty good too. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Early_Life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Early_Life
protomolecule 2y ago
>Well the guy who invented lobotomy got one of those. Yeah, and when you see a Nobel prize winner you must be assuming it's a bullshit grifter.

RachelF 2y ago

It's hard to generalize. The whole field of behavioural intelligence has lots of fake/unrepeatable studies. Even Kahneman, who got a Economics Nobel has this issue: https://retractionwatch.com/2017/02/20/placed-much-faith-underpowered-studies-nobel-prize-winner-admits-mistakes/ https://retractionwatch.com/2017/02/20/placed-much-faith-und...

protomolecule 2y ago
Yep, it's hard, that's why sometimes it's better not to overgeneralize. But sure, that field is full if unreproducible "research".