> if you actually looked into it yourself, you would see that RIM is doing some really great things with BlackBerry 10. They're reaching out to FOSS communities

> if you actually looked into it yourself, you would see that RIM is doing some really great things with BlackBerry 10. They're reaching out to FOSS communities, seeding actual hardware, and making their tools easier to use than ever. That's great, but the health of a company and it's products depends on a bit more than their developer relations team. The engineers at HP/Palm were also doing great things with webOS before it got axed entirely. > But I know that many, maybe yourself included, will call me a fanboi, downvote me, and won't bother looking into it themselves. They'll continue spouting this nonsense about RIM's death, never changing their opinion, and taking Apple/Google's word for it. That's fine, continue being uninformed. I have no personal stake in the matter nor do I particularly care whether RIM survives or dies. I was only making the observation that if I was a Qt developer that just got laid off from Nokia, I would not want to take up a job at RIM for fear of the same situation repeating itself in 12-18 months. I mean, in the best case scenario it's a gamble that BB10 succeeds in the marketplace at all. If I had a family to support I would be looking to find a less risky proposition. > The rest of us developers with an open mind will happily pick up the slack on the sinking ship that is RIM. We might be wrong, and you might be right. But what happens when we're right? Where will you be? The same place I always was? RIM's success or failure is entirely irrelevant to me.