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People still buy supermarket instant. I think the problem is actually that people don't know what good coffee tastes like, nor do they care.

tssva 2y ago
If it tastes good to them then it is good coffee. Could it just be case of different strokes for different folks and some wanting to feel superior?
- Arch-TK 2y ago
  Or they have no perspective. See my other comment.
  - tssva 2y ago
    That comment definitely makes me lean towards you just liking to feel superior.
    - Arch-TK 2y ago
      Or maybe it is you who likes to feel superior to people with an interest in coffee? e.g. "It makes decent espresso and the money, time and mental energy for getting a slightly better espresso through a more expensive machine is just not worth it to me." If you think that time, money and experience can only produce a "slightly better espresso" then I will just say you are not experienced enough to make such a claim. Rather than accepting that maybe to some there is a big difference, you call them snobs.
karolist 2y ago
I'd argue most people don't even like coffee, they drink it for the caffeine.
- Arch-TK 2y ago
  I think I would agree that most people don't like their experience of black coffee. Whether that's because there is no coffee or brewing method out there that, when served black, would satisfy them, or because they've just not had the chance to taste what they would consider good coffee, of that I am not sure.
woodpanel 2y ago
After paying a monthly premium for my coffee-lifestyle of I'd say 100-200 EURs just by buying most premium sorts of beans for ages, not including drinking at cliché hip coffee bars of competition-winning baristas (face-tatooed mustaches are to be expected) and having endless discussions about taste and techniques with the average tech co-worker, I happily reverted to the one and only, un-hipersterable, supermarket instant. I do know how good coffee tastes like and would say: It's not worth it.
- Arch-TK 2y ago
  > It's not worth it. For you. Please add that last bit, as it makes the difference between a statement and an opinion. I am happy for you that you tried things and decided they were not worth it for you. At least you took it a step further than a lot of people who hold such opinions about speciality coffee. But I think you should open your mind to the idea that the people who think it IS worth it are not just pretending.

tssva 2y ago

If it tastes good to them then it is good coffee. Could it just be case of different strokes for different folks and some wanting to feel superior?

Arch-TK 2y ago
Or they have no perspective. See my other comment.
- tssva 2y ago
  That comment definitely makes me lean towards you just liking to feel superior.
  - Arch-TK 2y ago
    Or maybe it is you who likes to feel superior to people with an interest in coffee? e.g. "It makes decent espresso and the money, time and mental energy for getting a slightly better espresso through a more expensive machine is just not worth it to me." If you think that time, money and experience can only produce a "slightly better espresso" then I will just say you are not experienced enough to make such a claim. Rather than accepting that maybe to some there is a big difference, you call them snobs.

karolist 2y ago

I'd argue most people don't even like coffee, they drink it for the caffeine.

Arch-TK 2y ago
I think I would agree that most people don't like their experience of black coffee. Whether that's because there is no coffee or brewing method out there that, when served black, would satisfy them, or because they've just not had the chance to taste what they would consider good coffee, of that I am not sure.

woodpanel 2y ago

After paying a monthly premium for my coffee-lifestyle of I'd say 100-200 EURs just by buying most premium sorts of beans for ages, not including drinking at cliché hip coffee bars of competition-winning baristas (face-tatooed mustaches are to be expected) and having endless discussions about taste and techniques with the average tech co-worker, I happily reverted to the one and only, un-hipersterable, supermarket instant. I do know how good coffee tastes like and would say: It's not worth it.

Arch-TK 2y ago
> It's not worth it. For you. Please add that last bit, as it makes the difference between a statement and an opinion. I am happy for you that you tried things and decided they were not worth it for you. At least you took it a step further than a lot of people who hold such opinions about speciality coffee. But I think you should open your mind to the idea that the people who think it IS worth it are not just pretending.