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Is that a "yes"?
by dk 18y ago
Is that a "yes"?
- calambrac 18y agoWhy would I yield something that doesn't exist? But, sure, okay, yes, I would be willing to yield rent control in the situation where it wasn't necessary to prevent displacement. I guess I miss your point?
- dk 18y agoI asked if you would yield price controls, which certainly do exist, and I was curious whether wild market fluctuations were pivotal to your position. I'm assuming this is why you haven't addressed the essence of my point.
- calambrac 18y agoI haven't addressed the essence of your point because I don't know what it is. Rent control only really exists in large cities that have experienced wild market fluctuations (in the form of surging rent prices) that displaced renters. If there weren't surging rents displacing people, why would there be rent control? In that case, I would yield them... but in that case, they wouldn't have existed in the first place. So I still miss your point.
- dk 18y agoWild fluctuations != rising prices.
- calambrac 18y agoRising prices are a subset of wild fluctuations. The other part is falling prices. Rent control isn't really necessary for the latter, is it now?
- dk 18y agoNo, wild fluctuations are wild -- your adjective -- continual change up and down. May I suggest a dictionary? fluc⋅tu⋅a⋅tion [fluhk-choo-ey-shuhn] Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. continual change from one point or condition to another. 2. wavelike motion; undulation. This does not subsume longer-term trends. EDIT: I want to know if your issue is simply with rising prices. If it is -- and it seems pretty clear that it is -- don't use misleading/distracting/inaccurate verbiage like "wild fluctuations".
- calambrac 18y agoDude, come on. Your contribution to this conversation is really going to be latching onto my use of 'wild fluctuations' instead of 'large price increases' as somehow disingenuous?
- DabAsteroid 18y agoIf there weren't surging rents displacing people, why would there be rent control? Because politicians try to appease renters, who in turn tend to wrongly assume that "rent control" is something that would benefit them. A prevalent assumption among renters seems to be that if a given thing is bad for landlords, it must automatically be good for renters. For example, when landlords back advertisements against rent control measures, that is actually given as a reason by "tenant's rights" advocates to vote the opposite way. By the way, the rest of the "tenant's rights" -- including any kind of tenant rights -- also contribute to homelessness and high rent prices. Also contributing are building codes, construction codes, use codes, etc. Without any of those, apartments would necessarily be dirt cheap, and there would be no such thing as homelessness.