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why would they be suing boxopus? that would be like suing the creators of the bittorrent client. boxopus doesn't store any data, nor provide links to torrents

by catch23 14y ago

why would they be suing boxopus? that would be like suing the creators of the bittorrent client. boxopus doesn't store any data, nor provide links to torrents for people, it's simply a service like your bt client. If anything, this seems like this would be an easier way to catch the actual users.

kenrikm 14y ago
Valid logical points; However the RIAA and MPAA don't operate on Logic or Validity.
stephengillie 14y ago
So they'd sue boxopus to get their user data (IP addresses)? Or is this an RIAA/MPAA honeypot?
- kenrikm 14y ago
  They'd sue them to try and bleed them into the grave regardless of if they have any legal basis to do so.
- greendestiny 14y ago
  Why not? But it'd be better than an IP address you'd have their dropbox account.
icebraining 14y ago
Because Boxopus actually downloads the content? They're not just a BT client, they actually run instances of it.
- praptak 14y ago
  They are an interesting data point between the two: * A generic provider of CPU/storage/bandwidth who isn't (generally speaking) responsible for users copying stuff using provider's resources. * A service who clearly and obviously caters to pirates (those do actually get in legal trouble) A lawsuit would probably be interesting for the class of cases where it is not clear who is legally responsible for actions performed by software (author, owner of box, user starting the action, etc.)
- A1kmm 14y ago
  I think they would probably claim to be a service provider under the DMCA. " (a) Transitory Digital Network Communications. - A service provider shall not be liable for monetary relief, or, except as provided in subsection (j), for injunctive or other equitable relief, for infringement of copyright by reason of the provider's transmitting, routing, or providing connections for, material through a system or network controlled or operated by or for the service provider, or by reason of the intermediate and transient storage of that material in the course of such transmitting, routing, or providing connections, if - (1) the transmission of the material was initiated by or at the direction of a person other than the service provider; " To make that claim, they need to register a designated agent first; I can't find their agent on their online listings or their website, but I presume that they will do that before they get too big. Disclaimer: IANAL, this is not legal advice.

by catch23 14y ago

kenrikm 14y ago

Valid logical points; However the RIAA and MPAA don't operate on Logic or Validity.

stephengillie 14y ago

So they'd sue boxopus to get their user data (IP addresses)? Or is this an RIAA/MPAA honeypot?

kenrikm 14y ago
They'd sue them to try and bleed them into the grave regardless of if they have any legal basis to do so.
greendestiny 14y ago
Why not? But it'd be better than an IP address you'd have their dropbox account.

icebraining 14y ago

Because Boxopus actually downloads the content? They're not just a BT client, they actually run instances of it.

praptak 14y ago
They are an interesting data point between the two: * A generic provider of CPU/storage/bandwidth who isn't (generally speaking) responsible for users copying stuff using provider's resources. * A service who clearly and obviously caters to pirates (those do actually get in legal trouble) A lawsuit would probably be interesting for the class of cases where it is not clear who is legally responsible for actions performed by software (author, owner of box, user starting the action, etc.)
A1kmm 14y ago
I think they would probably claim to be a service provider under the DMCA. " (a) Transitory Digital Network Communications. - A service provider shall not be liable for monetary relief, or, except as provided in subsection (j), for injunctive or other equitable relief, for infringement of copyright by reason of the provider's transmitting, routing, or providing connections for, material through a system or network controlled or operated by or for the service provider, or by reason of the intermediate and transient storage of that material in the course of such transmitting, routing, or providing connections, if - (1) the transmission of the material was initiated by or at the direction of a person other than the service provider; " To make that claim, they need to register a designated agent first; I can't find their agent on their online listings or their website, but I presume that they will do that before they get too big. Disclaimer: IANAL, this is not legal advice.