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I'm not convinced on autogrinders. One of my friends had one (A Jura) of 1000+ euro and the coffee was no better. Eventually the grinder crapped out and the rep

I'm not convinced on autogrinders. One of my friends had one (A Jura) of 1000+ euro and the coffee was no better. Eventually the grinder crapped out and the replacement cost 3/4 of the machine price. He's now drinking Nespresso like me :) Breville doesn't seem to be a common brand here in Europe but I see it is a lot cheaper. Nothing like the 80 euro of a Nespresso machine though (which has also lasted me 10 years despite never descaling it).

Arch-TK 2y ago
The breville/sage machines are not "autogrinders" they're normal espresso machines with a grinder built into the same housing (which you can use stand alone) which you use to fill a portafilter basket and which you then need to tamp. Machines which grind internally and produce a coffee fully automatically can be configured to produce decent coffee, but it's not exactly easy.
morsch 2y ago
You can get a De'Longhi Magnifica S super automatic for ~260 EUR on sale. Quite reliable. More convenient than an a Nespresso. Cheaper to operate. Less waste.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  I don't know if it's really as convenient though. What I tend to do is drink "half-caf", I take 1 pod decaf and 1 pod normal in the same cup. It looks like for this one I'd have to change out the bean reservoir every time (or mix normal beans with decaf beans somehow). It would probably be cheaper though yeah. Even the aftermarket cups still cost me 25c. I'll have more of a look at it once my current machine fails (it's going on 10 years now).
  - bialpio 2y ago
    What we do when mixing beans in our breville is we keep the grinder empty and only add beans after weighting them for a single serving. For a split-shot, I'd just add ~9g of caffeinated beans, pull a shot and then pull a 2nd one with ~9g of decaf, or more likely just mix 19g of beans and pull a double shot. It is more hassle than just using pods tho...

Arch-TK 2y ago

The breville/sage machines are not "autogrinders" they're normal espresso machines with a grinder built into the same housing (which you can use stand alone) which you use to fill a portafilter basket and which you then need to tamp. Machines which grind internally and produce a coffee fully automatically can be configured to produce decent coffee, but it's not exactly easy.

morsch 2y ago

You can get a De'Longhi Magnifica S super automatic for ~260 EUR on sale. Quite reliable. More convenient than an a Nespresso. Cheaper to operate. Less waste.

wkat4242 2y ago
I don't know if it's really as convenient though. What I tend to do is drink "half-caf", I take 1 pod decaf and 1 pod normal in the same cup. It looks like for this one I'd have to change out the bean reservoir every time (or mix normal beans with decaf beans somehow). It would probably be cheaper though yeah. Even the aftermarket cups still cost me 25c. I'll have more of a look at it once my current machine fails (it's going on 10 years now).
- bialpio 2y ago
  What we do when mixing beans in our breville is we keep the grinder empty and only add beans after weighting them for a single serving. For a split-shot, I'd just add ~9g of caffeinated beans, pull a shot and then pull a 2nd one with ~9g of decaf, or more likely just mix 19g of beans and pull a double shot. It is more hassle than just using pods tho...