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Here's the o1-preview answer to the strawberry question: -- There are three letter "R"s in the word "strawberry." Let's break down the word to count the oc

Here's the o1-preview answer to the strawberry question: -- There are *three* letter "R"s in the word "strawberry." Let's break down the word to count the occurrences: - *S* - *T* - *R* - *A* - *W* - *B* - *E* - *R* - *R* - *Y* The letter "R" appears in positions 3, 8, and 9.

carabiner 2y ago
can you ask it: 9.11 and 9.9, which number is larger
- deleted 2y ago
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- octernion 2y ago
  it claims 9.11 is larger, hah. https://postimg.cc/KKKLZNjW https://postimg.cc/KKKLZNjW
  - peppertree 2y ago
    That's odd. Tried several times with the same prompt and always got the correct answer with step by step explanation.
    - KeplerBoy 2y ago
      Those models are just not deterministic.
- peppertree 2y ago
  4.9 is larger than 4.11. Explanation: • 4.9 is equivalent to 4.90. • 4.11 remains 4.11. When comparing the numbers: • 4.90 (which is 4.9) • 4.11 Since 4.90 > 4.11, 4.9 is the larger number.
  - carabiner 2y ago
    Try it with 9.11 and 9.9. Some have proposed that it thinks "9.11" is larger because in a social context 9/11 has much larger significance.
    - glial 2y ago
      From o1-mini: To determine which number is larger between 9.11 and 9.9, let's compare them step by step: Understanding the Numbers: 9.11 can be read as "nine and eleven hundredths." 9.9 can be read as "nine and nine tenths." To make the comparison easier, you can also think of it as 9.90 (adding a zero doesn't change the value). Comparing the Decimal Places: Ones Place: Both numbers have 9 in the ones place. Tenths Place: 9.11 has a 1 in the tenths place. 9.90 has a 9 in the tenths place. Conclusion: Since 9.90 has a larger value in the tenths place compared to 9.11, 9.90 (or 9.9) is larger than 9.11. Therefore, 9.9 is larger than 9.11.
- hidelooktropic 2y ago
  > Evaluating Number formats > I'm considering that the question might be about comparing two numbers, 9.11 and 9.9, in different contexts such as different locale formats or representing dates. 9.11 is larger than 9.9 Well, it's kind of right because we left it ambiguous what kinds of numbers these are. September 11 is a greater date than September 9. However, I would want the model to have the street smarts to assume without further context, I must be just talking about numbers as in numbers.
  - oytis 2y ago
    Was it trained on Excel code?
slashdave 2y ago
Given that this is a well known example, presumably OpenAI included a training set using letters.
latexr 2y ago
Not everyone got the same results. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41530647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41530647 Which is to be expected, the answer isn’t deterministic.

Here's the o1-preview answer to the strawberry question: -- There are *three* letter "R"s in the word "strawberry." Let's break down the word to count the oc

carabiner 2y ago

can you ask it: 9.11 and 9.9, which number is larger

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octernion 2y ago
it claims 9.11 is larger, hah. https://postimg.cc/KKKLZNjW https://postimg.cc/KKKLZNjW
- peppertree 2y ago
  That's odd. Tried several times with the same prompt and always got the correct answer with step by step explanation.
  - KeplerBoy 2y ago
    Those models are just not deterministic.
peppertree 2y ago
4.9 is larger than 4.11. Explanation: • 4.9 is equivalent to 4.90. • 4.11 remains 4.11. When comparing the numbers: • 4.90 (which is 4.9) • 4.11 Since 4.90 > 4.11, 4.9 is the larger number.
- carabiner 2y ago
  Try it with 9.11 and 9.9. Some have proposed that it thinks "9.11" is larger because in a social context 9/11 has much larger significance.
  - glial 2y ago
    From o1-mini: To determine which number is larger between 9.11 and 9.9, let's compare them step by step: Understanding the Numbers: 9.11 can be read as "nine and eleven hundredths." 9.9 can be read as "nine and nine tenths." To make the comparison easier, you can also think of it as 9.90 (adding a zero doesn't change the value). Comparing the Decimal Places: Ones Place: Both numbers have 9 in the ones place. Tenths Place: 9.11 has a 1 in the tenths place. 9.90 has a 9 in the tenths place. Conclusion: Since 9.90 has a larger value in the tenths place compared to 9.11, 9.90 (or 9.9) is larger than 9.11. Therefore, 9.9 is larger than 9.11.
hidelooktropic 2y ago
> Evaluating Number formats > I'm considering that the question might be about comparing two numbers, 9.11 and 9.9, in different contexts such as different locale formats or representing dates. 9.11 is larger than 9.9 Well, it's kind of right because we left it ambiguous what kinds of numbers these are. September 11 is a greater date than September 9. However, I would want the model to have the street smarts to assume without further context, I must be just talking about numbers as in numbers.
- oytis 2y ago
  Was it trained on Excel code?

slashdave 2y ago

Given that this is a well known example, presumably OpenAI included a training set using letters.

latexr 2y ago

Not everyone got the same results. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41530647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41530647 Which is to be expected, the answer isn’t deterministic.