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> The accelerometer detects when you pick it up and heats it back up. I don't want this. I would rather push a button and wait for a light to turn on. Automati

> The accelerometer detects when you pick it up and heats it back up. I don't want this. I would rather push a button and wait for a light to turn on. Automatic off, fine, I guess, though I don't love it and would never want to rely on it. Automatic on, no way.

kwiens 2y ago
By default, the timer is set to 30 seconds. You can turn the whole feature off, and it'll never bother you again!
- BugsJustFindMe 2y ago
  > You can turn the whole feature off, and it'll never bother you again! Awesome. Thank you!
LeifCarrotson 2y ago
Agreed. There's a place for open, smart tools. Some things want to have serial interfaces and sensors and so on, that will do a whole host of actions automatically. Other times you just want the equivalent of a drill or toaster. Pull trigger, drill spins. Twist chuck or shift gearbox, it slips or changes speeds. Push toast down, it toasts, twist the dial if you want darker or lighter. An on/off switch, a potentiometer or 7-segment and some buttons to set temp, and a nice, fast, powerful PID loop to control the temperature (with a 120V AC cable to make 100W all day not a problem) is all I want in a soldering iron. I have a combination soldering/hot air station that's almost 20 years old, it just always works.
wvenable 2y ago
I have something like this on a TS100 and it works fine. You set it down for a while because you're still soldering but you need to move stuff and it reduces the heat. Then you pick it back up and by the time you've gotten to part it's already back up the temp. How is that worse than it just being full temp the whole time?
- BugsJustFindMe 2y ago
  It's just unnecessary complexity and another thing that can go wrong. I know when I'm using it and not using it. I don't need the device to guess. The device guessing doesn't actually improve my life in any way. And it's going to guess wrong a lot of the time. Automatically turning on and off both have unsafe failure modes that lead to it being on unexpectedly (it turns back on when I don't expect it to, and it doesn't turn off when I do expect it to) based on imperfect sensing hardware and software that can both stop working, and I'm not ok with unsafe failure modes in a device that will burn down my house. This is also the reason that I disfavor battery-powered soldering irons in general, but at least being portable adds something you may need and can't otherwise achieve.
  - wvenable 2y ago
    In the case of the TS100 it doesn't turn off, it just cools down. I've never had it guess wrong -- my hand isn't so steady that it will turn off while I'm using it. If it's on and on the table, it is still visibly ON so this is just extra safety if it's a little bit cooler.
- pcdoodle 2y ago
  The tip will get nasty sitting there at max temps for extended periods.
WheatMillington 2y ago
I have this feature on my Pinecil and it's annoying. Need to look into turning it off. I really just want to be in control of whether my iron is on (I'm working with it) or off (I'm finished with it). Generally speaking I never want it off while it's plugged in.

kwiens 2y ago

By default, the timer is set to 30 seconds. You can turn the whole feature off, and it'll never bother you again!

BugsJustFindMe 2y ago
> You can turn the whole feature off, and it'll never bother you again! Awesome. Thank you!

LeifCarrotson 2y ago

Agreed. There's a place for open, smart tools. Some things want to have serial interfaces and sensors and so on, that will do a whole host of actions automatically. Other times you just want the equivalent of a drill or toaster. Pull trigger, drill spins. Twist chuck or shift gearbox, it slips or changes speeds. Push toast down, it toasts, twist the dial if you want darker or lighter. An on/off switch, a potentiometer or 7-segment and some buttons to set temp, and a nice, fast, powerful PID loop to control the temperature (with a 120V AC cable to make 100W all day not a problem) is all I want in a soldering iron. I have a combination soldering/hot air station that's almost 20 years old, it just always works.

wvenable 2y ago

I have something like this on a TS100 and it works fine. You set it down for a while because you're still soldering but you need to move stuff and it reduces the heat. Then you pick it back up and by the time you've gotten to part it's already back up the temp. How is that worse than it just being full temp the whole time?

BugsJustFindMe 2y ago
It's just unnecessary complexity and another thing that can go wrong. I know when I'm using it and not using it. I don't need the device to guess. The device guessing doesn't actually improve my life in any way. And it's going to guess wrong a lot of the time. Automatically turning on and off both have unsafe failure modes that lead to it being on unexpectedly (it turns back on when I don't expect it to, and it doesn't turn off when I do expect it to) based on imperfect sensing hardware and software that can both stop working, and I'm not ok with unsafe failure modes in a device that will burn down my house. This is also the reason that I disfavor battery-powered soldering irons in general, but at least being portable adds something you may need and can't otherwise achieve.
- wvenable 2y ago
  In the case of the TS100 it doesn't turn off, it just cools down. I've never had it guess wrong -- my hand isn't so steady that it will turn off while I'm using it. If it's on and on the table, it is still visibly ON so this is just extra safety if it's a little bit cooler.
pcdoodle 2y ago
The tip will get nasty sitting there at max temps for extended periods.

WheatMillington 2y ago

I have this feature on my Pinecil and it's annoying. Need to look into turning it off. I really just want to be in control of whether my iron is on (I'm working with it) or off (I'm finished with it). Generally speaking I never want it off while it's plugged in.