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Typical bad decisions, especially by a professional crew of trained flight engineers, are quite different from "bad trip" bad decisions. Totally different risk
by llamaimperative 2y ago
Typical bad decisions, especially by a professional crew of trained flight engineers, are quite different from "bad trip" bad decisions. Totally different risk vector and one they should have spent precisely zero seconds thinking about in the ISS's design.
- macksd 2y agoIt took only 17 Space Shuttle flights before a crew-member threatened to kill themselves causing them to add additional locks to the hatches. I think a few seconds considering what a malicious actor could do would be worth it.
- llamaimperative 2y agoWe're not discussing a malicious actor, we're discussing someone having a bad trip on LSD. It is a completely different thing.
- cjbgkagh 2y agoThe unpredictability means they might as well be a malicious actor.
- llamaimperative 2y agoNot really. Someone panicking on acid would do different things than a sober person trying to knock the ISS out of orbit. Obviously.
- cjbgkagh 2y ago'Not really' - best not bet the lives and a huge amount of money on 'Not really'
- llamaimperative 2y agoI don’t know what argument you’re trying to make. The question is: should the ISS be hardened against someone on LSD. My answer is: that is fucking absurd, and generic hardening against malicious actors is tangential at best.
- jMyles 2y ago...we're not talking about force-feeding someone a fifth of whiskey here. A stable, thoughtful, trained scientist, in the company of supportive and emotionally intelligent colleagues, does not present a significant risk when fed a normal dose of LSD.
- llamaimperative 2y agoThey absolutely can present a significant risk when fed a normal dose of LSD. And I'm no prude when it comes to this stuff. Very standard advice for psychedelics is set & setting, and "don't be physically trapped in an environment you might find uncomfortable" is a reasonable derivation.
- mrguyorama 2y agoDon't be in the endless void of space which is already emotionally and psychologically taxing on human beings who are verifiably in peak physical and mental condition Seems like a pretty fucking bad set and setting honestly. Regular astronauts already deal with powerful feelings in their normal job. Adding a drug to that is a bad plan.