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> If you have enough money you can ring them up and say "I want to go into space" and they can make that happen. To whoever wants to be the first one to drop a
by stef25 2y ago
> If you have enough money you can ring them up and say "I want to go into space" and they can make that happen.
To whoever wants to be the first one to drop acid in space, the doors are open
- jMyles 2y ago> the first one to drop acid in space Seems unlikely we'll ever definitely now, but I suspect that whomever does it next won't be the first (or second, or third).
- brandall10 2y agoEsp. on longer ISS trips. I can't believe this hasn't already been a sanctioned experiment.
- baseballdork 2y agoI can believe it. Dunno how reasonable it would be to risk having someone in an altered state of mind on the ISS. What do you do if someone has a bad trip or decides to make poor decisions?
- brandall10 2y agoSimilar to what's been done on earth during such experiments. Just have to do it in a controlled way in a prepared environment, and have both an administrator and a person likely versed in taking the substance to minimize risk. Of course with just a sample of one it won't yield much scientific benefit.
- mycodendral 2y agoI agree to not do it casually But it could probably be arranged under supervision with an anesthetizer option. They probably already have some protocol for antisocial or psychotic behavior.
- mycodendral 2y agoI agree to not do it casually But it could reasonably be arranged under supervision with an anesthetizer option. They probably already have some protocol for erratic behavior.
- KineticLensman 2y ago> What do you do if someone has a bad trip or decides to make poor decisions The space shuttle had a hatch that could be opened to vacuum and was actually padlocked shut on some flights where the mission specialists weren't trusted by the commander [0]. [0] https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/01/solving-a-nasa-mystery-why-did-space-shuttle-commanders-lock-the-hatch/ https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/01/solving-a-nasa-mystery...
- schiffern 2y agoIf you mean STS-51-B, the commander duct taped the hatch. After that flight a padlock was added for a more permanent solution. > “I remember waking up at the beginning of a shift and seeing duct tape on the hatch," Gregory told Ars. "I did not know what the origin of it was, and I didn’t pay any attention to it. I may have, but I don’t recall asking Overmyer about it.” Also this detail gives me pause: > The Space Shuttle has been retired for 13 years, but the padlock remains in the fabric of US spaceflight with Crew Dragon. A commander's lock is an __option__ for NASA's crews flying to the International Space Station on Crew Dragon, as well as private missions. Why even make it optional? Seems better to officially take responsibility out of the commander's hands and make the lock mandatory. This would greatly reduce risk to onboard trust dynamics, since the commander is just following orders instead of signaling mistrust toward the crew. This seems like one of those "who needs all those lifeboats??" situations. Why not avert the Titanic now?
- jandrese 2y agoThat seems crazy. There are like 10 people in space at any given time. The idea that we might have sent someone mentally unstable given that we can be that selective is mind blowing. How in the world can you qualify for this if you aren't the best of the best of the best?
- cjbgkagh 2y agoI don’t see mental instability as an independent defect but as a byproduct of some of the long tail aspects needed to be the best of the best. To put another way, many people are motivated to fill a void, that same void can cause mental instability.
- latchkey 2y agoPeople make poor decisions regardless of drugs.
- BurningFrog 2y agoI'm not denying that intoxication leads to more bad decisions. But sober people also make many bad decisions. A space ship needs to be resilient to bad decisions, and I assume/hope the ISS already is well fortified in that respect.
- llamaimperative 2y agoTypical bad decisions, especially by a professional crew of trained flight engineers, are quite different from "bad trip" bad decisions. Totally different risk vector and one they should have spent precisely zero seconds thinking about in the ISS's design.
- macksd 2y agoIt took only 17 Space Shuttle flights before a crew-member threatened to kill themselves causing them to add additional locks to the hatches. I think a few seconds considering what a malicious actor could do would be worth it.
- llamaimperative 2y agoWe're not discussing a malicious actor, we're discussing someone having a bad trip on LSD. It is a completely different thing.
- cjbgkagh 2y agoThe unpredictability means they might as well be a malicious actor.
- llamaimperative 2y agoNot really. Someone panicking on acid would do different things than a sober person trying to knock the ISS out of orbit. Obviously.
- dylan604 2y ago> What do you do if someone has a bad trip or decides to make poor decisions? The same thing you do on terra firma. You do your best to keep them calm, and talk them down. I've never had to physically restrain anyone, but seems like that would actually be easier to do on the ISS. Just wrap them up and let 'em float around I'd also expect bad trips to not be as big of an issue in a NASA sanctioned experiment with a much more closely controlled dose vs some tab you got off the guy in a tye dyed t-shirt at the concert type of situation.
- robertlagrant 2y agoWhat's nice about the ISS is there's no way for someone to do something accidentally dangerous in there.
- xur17 2y agoAre you being sarcastic?
- diggan 2y ago> I've never had to physically restrain anyone, but seems like that would actually be easier to do on the ISS. Just wrap them up and let 'em float around A great way of restraining someone is pushing them against an unmovable object. On Earth, that is either the floor or a wall, then you can pin them somewhat against that, at least restricting them somewhat. Walls and floors are the same in space, and the person can literally float away with six degrees of freedom, at any time. I feel like physically restraining people would be harder in zero gravity than non-zero.
- dylan604 2y agoI was thinking simply a couple of bungee cords wrapped around them to keep them from flailing and then just let them drift around.
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- ionwake 2y agoI feel you don’t know enough about acid trips. If my spaceship commander just told me he had taken 2 tabs, I would start writing my obituary.
- delichon 2y agoWhen you throw open Huxley's doors of perception you get an extraordinary experience in the most quotidian of conditions. Like watching a river run by or just watching the washing machine run. Non psychonauts have to do extraordinary things, like become astronauts, to get to a similar level of awe-struck. A trip on a trip is a tragic waste of a trip.
- onemoresoop 2y agoWhen you're uber-rich I guess you want something no commoner can do.
- pyrale 2y agoConspicuous consumption at its finest.
- Log_out_ 2y agoAgreed. Also the hardware glitching while observing it mostly reveals truths about the hardware, very little and indirectly about the world it resides in.
- aaronharnly 2y agoOne might suspect the CEO has dibs on this one.
- forgot-im-old 2y agoThey also tested SpaceX's laser links, which are critical for Star Wars / Brilliant Pebbles goals, https://www.reddit.com/r/KamalaHarris/comments/1eunob4/elon_musk_is_the_star_of_project_2025/ https://www.reddit.com/r/KamalaHarris/comments/1eunob4/elon_...