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> Bianchi said his views about the courtesy cards haven’t changed. The 40-year-old Staten Island-based officer said there should be more oversight over how many
by diggan 2y ago
> Bianchi said his views about the courtesy cards haven’t changed. The 40-year-old Staten Island-based officer said there should be more oversight over how many of the cards are distributed to officers
Am I missing something or is that really backwards? They should get rid of these cards fully, not regulate how many are being distributed, seems to focus on a really weird solution.
- swalsh 2y agoThanks for helping me move, enjoy your free crime!
- wickedsight 2y ago[flagged]
- petesergeant 2y ago> another confirmation of how incredibly corrupt of a banana republic the US is I don’t think that’s at all a reasonable conclusion, but yes, low-level police graft needs to get stamped out, because what the actual fuck.
- giantg2 2y agoThis isn't low-level. This is institutionalized through the police union and being enforced throughout the organization, including knowledge of that enforcement at the highest levels. But yeah, banana republic is misapplied.
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- wickedsight 2y ago[flagged]
- petesergeant 2y ago> US politics is mostly decided by money … banana republic shenanigans I think you’re struggling with hyperbole here. The CPI[0] suggests that the US is a little bit more corrupt than North West Europe, and in a different league from Latin America, Asia, and Africa. I’ve lived for over a year (and in one case, well over a decade) in three countries that are a rich shade of orange on the CPI, and suggesting the US is on the same level is laughable. 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index > doesn’t seem low-level It gets you off a discretionary traffic violation charge, maybe, with no individual benefit to the officer making the call. Wake me up when you can buy one from an officer to stop them charging you with theft.
- ceejayoz 2y agoScroll down to the "Transnational Corruption in States with High CPI Scores" bit on that article.
- petesergeant 2y agoIt says, in summary: > Despite a high CPI score, [country, and presumably countries like it] has a poor record of prosecuting companies that bribe foreign officials to win contracts, as seen in the Nigerian oil bribery case. eg, rich countries have a nasty habit of turning a blind eye to their people bribing foreign officials. Regrettable, and hopefully more countries bring in legislation like the UK has, but not really pertinent to whether or not the US is a “banana republic”.
- ceejayoz 2y agoIt's pertinent to "perception and reality may not be the same thing" and provides an example of where CPI doesn't cover the whole story properly. Perception is subject to human factors; "practice x is corrupt, practice y is normal" may be the perception, but that doesn't mean it's accurate.
- shagie 2y agoSeptember 12, 2024 at 12:41 p.m. EDT: NYPD commissioner resigns amid federal corruption probe - https://wapo.st/3TrnijL https://wapo.st/3TrnijL
- petesergeant 2y agoGreat! The rule of law doesn't mean no crime happens, it means that those who commit it (and I note he claims not to be a target for the probe, so should be presumed innocent) are tried and punished if found guilty.
- claar 2y agoStupid paywall - here's a BBC article about the resignation https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05j5ezy6nro https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05j5ezy6nro
- wil421 2y agoNYC is notorious for behavior like this. NYPD, Port Authority, corrupt unions, and other mafia like behavior. It’s the reason they have a hard time updating their subway and other things. It immediately becomes a power grab for many parties. In other cities like mine this would be big news. Not to say they won’t give other cops a break but the card system is corrupt at its core.
- amy-petrik-214 2y agoYes I agree this tracks with the long history of NYC, certainly a fascinating rabbit hole but quite nasty to live through NYC was once a political powerhouse and a bastion of corruption, using unfettered illegal immigration as a lever to manipulate votes and outcomes - see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammany_Hall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammany_Hall
- aequitas 2y agoHate to bring it to you but as it might not be as corrupt the Netherlands is not devoid of this kind of behavior. For example if you “accidentally” show your policeacademy student card instead of your real ID you will get a different treatment at a traffic stop.
- dang 2y agoNationalistic flamewar will get you banned here, regardless of what's wrong or you feel is wrong about another country. If you'd please avoid posting like this in the future, we'd appreciate it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Cheer2171 2y agoFeels like he only wants get out of jail free cards to go to the 'right people'. I wonder who he thinks should be able to be exempt from laws. Rules for thee and thine friends but not me and my mine.
- delusional 2y agoI'm surprised at how easy everyone involved takes it. I would imagine people hastily trying to shove it under the rug, maybe mumble a little about how it's totally unacceptable but only a few bad apples. Instead everyone in this story just seem OK with the status quo.
- giantg2 2y agoBecause law enforcement and prosecutor discretion is a huge portion of the legal system in US. This selective enforcement is business as usual. They couldn't enforce all the laws even if they wanted to because the system doesn't have the capacity.
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