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> Has nothing to do with empathy or other feelings nonsense Nonsense? Are you Spock? The way you write makes me feel you're a participant of the LessWrong comm
by komali2 2y ago
> Has nothing to do with empathy or other feelings nonsense
Nonsense? Are you Spock? The way you write makes me feel you're a participant of the LessWrong community or idealogically aligned, maybe you'll appreciate this article: https://www.lesswrong.com/s/5g5TkQTe9rmPS5vvM/p/SqF8cHjJv43mvJJzx https://www.lesswrong.com/s/5g5TkQTe9rmPS5vvM/p/SqF8cHjJv43m...
> So is rationality orthogonal to feeling? No; our emotions arise from our models of reality.
> Becoming more rational—arriving at better estimates of how-the-world-is—can diminish feelings or intensify them. Sometimes we run away from strong feelings by denying the facts, by flinching away from the view of the world that gave rise to the powerful emotion. If so, then as you study the skills of rationality and train yourself not to deny facts, your feelings will become stronger.
8.5% of the working population of Americans is a lot of people. Driving a long time isn't the only obstacle people might face. I don't disagree that there's some mechanism by which the vast majority of Americans can cook every meal, or plant gardens, or do pullups every day, I'm disagreeing that it's a reasonable expectation given the environment. We should work to improve the environment.
I think you're trying to shoehorn a human situation into some pure thought experiment territory. When I say "don't have a choice" and you take me to mean "it's literally impossible," I feel like that's a bad faith interpretation. Would it be falsifiable for me to claim most Americans don't have the ability to do pullups every day? Yes of course. Negating it though is loaded because the topic isn't, "is there a mechanism by which Americans can do pullups every day," it's "is it reasonable to expect the majority of Americans to do pullups every day?"
What do you think? Is it reasonable to expect the majority of Americans to maintain 12% bodyfat while raising their 2.5 children to rational, well-studied standards, while meditating daily, while being 10 minutes early to work every day and staying 10 minutes later than their boss to ensure maximized potential for career success, while also learning to code to improve their job prospects, while supplementing their income by starting a drop shipping company, while ensuring the future of their liberal democracy by participating in local politics, while ensuring the future of their planet by engaging in climate activism, while reading at least one book per month? Which of the things on the list aren't you doing, and why "can't" you do them?
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