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Please just build housing

by __loam 2y ago

shiroiushi 2y ago
The existing property owners (NIMBYs) don't want that, and they control the local governments.
- ssl-3 2y ago
  Please just build housing anyway
- trhway 2y ago
  >property owners (NIMBYs) Quip for quip. More housing -> more property owners -> more NIMBYs. Do you really want more NIMBYs? Quiping aside, what you call NIMBY i see as opposition to "profits to the developers, externalities to the existing property owners". I'm all for more housing, i just think that the above mentioned profit/externalities distribution should be seriously adjusted, and then you'd see much more housing being built.
xenospn 2y ago
I thought the worlds’ population is in decline? Sounds to me like a problem that’ll sort itself out in 25 years or so.
- jajko 2y ago
  You don't get these folks - they don't want just any housing. They want central big house, very close to FAANG work, school, but around a lot of nature too, for peanuts of course because 'hey in 50s one man could finance whole family' or similar extreme case taken out of proportions. That literally everybody else wants it and thus its priced accordingly since we have market economies (in communism it worked similarly too but it was more about apparatchiks) and such properties are very scarce is irrelevant. They just want that appreciating investment. There is no point discussing this here, it had been done ad nausea and even otherwise rational people turn to very emotional reasoning when it comes to them and their perceived rights for their own wealth. Something about expecting the world to adjust to my expectations or desires instead of the other way.
  - xenospn 2y ago
    It’s hard enough to find a good place to live in LA when making 200k, I’m not sure how we can make it more affordable anytime soon.
  - __loam 2y ago
    Building housing close to things people need and use is preferable yeah.
- __loam 2y ago
  Global population is still rapidly growing despite developed nations moving toward stable numbers.
- solardev 2y ago
  Like money, food, water, and everything else, it's not just a supply problem a distribution one too. It doesn't matter if there are a bunch of vacancies on paper if those vacancies are too expensive and too far away from where the working poor (and that's most people these days) need to live.

Please just build housing

by __loam 2y ago

Please just build housing

shiroiushi 2y ago

The existing property owners (NIMBYs) don't want that, and they control the local governments.

ssl-3 2y ago
Please just build housing anyway
trhway 2y ago
>property owners (NIMBYs) Quip for quip. More housing -> more property owners -> more NIMBYs. Do you really want more NIMBYs? Quiping aside, what you call NIMBY i see as opposition to "profits to the developers, externalities to the existing property owners". I'm all for more housing, i just think that the above mentioned profit/externalities distribution should be seriously adjusted, and then you'd see much more housing being built.

xenospn 2y ago

I thought the worlds’ population is in decline? Sounds to me like a problem that’ll sort itself out in 25 years or so.

jajko 2y ago
You don't get these folks - they don't want just any housing. They want central big house, very close to FAANG work, school, but around a lot of nature too, for peanuts of course because 'hey in 50s one man could finance whole family' or similar extreme case taken out of proportions. That literally everybody else wants it and thus its priced accordingly since we have market economies (in communism it worked similarly too but it was more about apparatchiks) and such properties are very scarce is irrelevant. They just want that appreciating investment. There is no point discussing this here, it had been done ad nausea and even otherwise rational people turn to very emotional reasoning when it comes to them and their perceived rights for their own wealth. Something about expecting the world to adjust to my expectations or desires instead of the other way.
- xenospn 2y ago
  It’s hard enough to find a good place to live in LA when making 200k, I’m not sure how we can make it more affordable anytime soon.
- __loam 2y ago
  Building housing close to things people need and use is preferable yeah.
__loam 2y ago
Global population is still rapidly growing despite developed nations moving toward stable numbers.
solardev 2y ago
Like money, food, water, and everything else, it's not just a supply problem a distribution one too. It doesn't matter if there are a bunch of vacancies on paper if those vacancies are too expensive and too far away from where the working poor (and that's most people these days) need to live.