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You don't have to use apps that you don't like, do you? Use apps that respect your privacy and are open source. For example FairMail developer recommend to ins

You don't have to use apps that you don't like, do you? Use apps that respect your privacy and are open source. For example FairMail developer recommend to install app from github instead of PlayStore.

fragmede 2y ago
I do, if I want to get the services that app gives me access to. Eg my bank's app gives me access to my bank. There are no open source bank apps that I am aware of, so switching banks doesn't help.
- t0bia_s 2y ago
  Why do you need access to your bank from app? Isn't browser enough?
  - SAI_Peregrinus 2y ago
    Remote check deposit usually isn't available without an app. Probably other services as well.
    - t0bia_s 2y ago
      It is avalible via web login. At least in mine bank.
matheusmoreira 2y ago
I use free and open source software when I can. I use and contribute to open street maps. I use proton mail's open source software and have purchased a plan with SMTP included. I still gotta use WhatsApp though. In my country, to not have WhatsApp is to be ostracized. And there is no such thing as an open source WhatsApp client. They ban your number if you try. It's in the terms of service. I can't build a free software app to interface with my bank's systems either. I actually tried asking my banks about this once... How naive I was.
- t0bia_s 2y ago
  - In my country, to not have WhatsApp is to be ostracized. Can you be more specific? I never used WhatsApp. - app to interface with my bank's systems Why do you need app for that?
  - em-bee 2y ago
    it's the same problem with all walled gardens. to communicate with others i have to enter the garden they are in. i have the same problem with wechat in china. i was unable to keep in touch with people until i gave in and joined wechat. my landlord, teachers, parents of my kids classmates, colleagues at work, even government institutions or some family. whatever they use, i have to use. no choice. be it whatsapp, wechat or something else. they make the rules, and they could not care less if i join them or not. but if i don't it's my loss, not theirs. -app to interface with my bank's systems my bank requires an app (either mobile or windows) to approve any transfer, and login to the webinterface.
    - t0bia_s 2y ago
      - whatever they use, i have to use. That is premise to give companies and governments control over everything. If collectivism is more valued to you than right for privacy, nothing stop them to steal all of you data piece by piece. If someone really care about being in touch with you, they listen. I never used app for verification of bank transaction. Smartphone is not condition to run their business.
      - em-bee 2y ago
        If someone really care about being in touch with you, they listen. that goes both ways. if i care to be in touch with them, i need to listen. the groups of people i mentioned don't care to be in touch with me. but i depend on being in contact with them. therefore i have to be the one to listen. the alternative is isolation. there is no other way. i have been there. i would not be able to travel around the world as i do now, if i stuck with that attitude.

fragmede 2y ago

I do, if I want to get the services that app gives me access to. Eg my bank's app gives me access to my bank. There are no open source bank apps that I am aware of, so switching banks doesn't help.

t0bia_s 2y ago
Why do you need access to your bank from app? Isn't browser enough?
- SAI_Peregrinus 2y ago
  Remote check deposit usually isn't available without an app. Probably other services as well.
  - t0bia_s 2y ago
    It is avalible via web login. At least in mine bank.

matheusmoreira 2y ago

I use free and open source software when I can. I use and contribute to open street maps. I use proton mail's open source software and have purchased a plan with SMTP included. I still gotta use WhatsApp though. In my country, to not have WhatsApp is to be ostracized. And there is no such thing as an open source WhatsApp client. They ban your number if you try. It's in the terms of service. I can't build a free software app to interface with my bank's systems either. I actually tried asking my banks about this once... How naive I was.

t0bia_s 2y ago
- In my country, to not have WhatsApp is to be ostracized. Can you be more specific? I never used WhatsApp. - app to interface with my bank's systems Why do you need app for that?
- em-bee 2y ago
  it's the same problem with all walled gardens. to communicate with others i have to enter the garden they are in. i have the same problem with wechat in china. i was unable to keep in touch with people until i gave in and joined wechat. my landlord, teachers, parents of my kids classmates, colleagues at work, even government institutions or some family. whatever they use, i have to use. no choice. be it whatsapp, wechat or something else. they make the rules, and they could not care less if i join them or not. but if i don't it's my loss, not theirs. -app to interface with my bank's systems my bank requires an app (either mobile or windows) to approve any transfer, and login to the webinterface.
  - t0bia_s 2y ago
    - whatever they use, i have to use. That is premise to give companies and governments control over everything. If collectivism is more valued to you than right for privacy, nothing stop them to steal all of you data piece by piece. If someone really care about being in touch with you, they listen. I never used app for verification of bank transaction. Smartphone is not condition to run their business.
    - em-bee 2y ago
      If someone really care about being in touch with you, they listen. that goes both ways. if i care to be in touch with them, i need to listen. the groups of people i mentioned don't care to be in touch with me. but i depend on being in contact with them. therefore i have to be the one to listen. the alternative is isolation. there is no other way. i have been there. i would not be able to travel around the world as i do now, if i stuck with that attitude.