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Russian blues reveal effects of language on color discrimination

10 points by lovegrenoble 2y ago

orbital-decay 2y ago
So they found that color discrimination speed correlates with language under some conditions. Does it hold for e.g. Japanese and the traditional lack of green/blue separation?
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  I think it's also present aurally: we have trouble discriminating phonemes that our L1 language doesn't.
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    ??No one going to comment on the link to https://russian.stackexchange.com/questions/17584/what-are-some-words-for-lgbt-people-in-russia https://russian.stackexchange.com/questions/17584/what-are-s...
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      ...handily providing a counter-interpretation for the symbolism of light blue berets and tight telnyashkas?
      - gradschoolfail 2y ago
        The brotherhood of nations? (No idea about the less visible class of std issue equipment) EDIT: Hoist by the colors https://youtu.be/x9oN_zk_WSk https://youtu.be/x9oN_zk_WSk EDIT 2: https://youtu.be/XleUs-neDR8 https://youtu.be/XleUs-neDR8 (Feel free to add lyrics))
        082349872349872 2y ago
        только-только вперёд. За горизонт! now we've moved from sky-blue to navy blue? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl62ce6I6jE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl62ce6I6jE Separated at birth? A/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddk8VXJUBcg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddk8VXJUBcg and B/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh0KabcfT3w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh0KabcfT3w (both versions being a little short on rum and the lash) EDIT: my aural comprehension is poor, yours did mention a бутылка рому. Pedantry: "hoist the colours" (compare Поднять все флаги), but "hoist by their own petard" (loosely compare Ёж — птица гордая: не пнёшь — не полетит) EDIT2: icymi, the sky blue berets in particular are worn by these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QJOZBtToKY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QJOZBtToKY (judging by the efforts they're putting into passing for het in this clip, I wouldn't call several of them "sky blue guys" in public — not without a MANPADS handy*, at least) * in which case, as the Kadyrovtsy have discovered, flying low and slow results in a ride on, not the black pearl, but the black tulip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBAwN2YaTE8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBAwN2YaTE8 EDIT3: on the slight chance you were asking for lyrics instead of giving me a "paper chase" hunt: https://www.smule.com/song/даниэла-устинова-пираты-карибского-моря-karaoke-lyrics/13187836_13187836/arrangement https://www.smule.com/song/даниэла-устинова-пираты-карибског... > You're either with us, or you're overboard. (Ты либо с нами, Либо за борт) —DVU > You're either on the bus, or you're off the bus. —KEK
        gradschoolfail 2y ago
        Aha always surprised by the effort (or sheer enjoyment?) Regret i that i cant match the verve.. A couple of points while i absorb these tubes: 1) lyrics to wellermans apple would be a mashup of a) https://lyricstranslate.com/en/new-zealand-folk-wellerman-russian & b) (you may choose between red, black, or white (the last one is trickiest) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yablochko https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Яблочко … thus creating a bluesky composition? (Defer to wikipedia-aproved vexillology by Nathan Evans) 2) a self-policing of tone (more accurately, tint? Also note the singular red) would achieve ontopicality here https://youtube.com/watch?v=4oB89nvdrdA
        2y ago
082349872349872 2y ago
see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_term#Color-term_hierarchy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_term#Color-term_hierarch...

10 points by lovegrenoble 2y ago

So they found that color discrimination speed correlates with language under some conditions. Does it hold for e.g. Japanese and the traditional lack of green/blue separation?

082349872349872 2y ago
I think it's also present aurally: we have trouble discriminating phonemes that our L1 language doesn't.
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  ??No one going to comment on the link to https://russian.stackexchange.com/questions/17584/what-are-some-words-for-lgbt-people-in-russia https://russian.stackexchange.com/questions/17584/what-are-s...
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    ...handily providing a counter-interpretation for the symbolism of light blue berets and tight telnyashkas?
    - gradschoolfail 2y ago
      The brotherhood of nations? (No idea about the less visible class of std issue equipment) EDIT: Hoist by the colors https://youtu.be/x9oN_zk_WSk https://youtu.be/x9oN_zk_WSk EDIT 2: https://youtu.be/XleUs-neDR8 https://youtu.be/XleUs-neDR8 (Feel free to add lyrics))
      - 082349872349872 2y ago
        только-только вперёд. За горизонт! now we've moved from sky-blue to navy blue? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl62ce6I6jE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl62ce6I6jE Separated at birth? A/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddk8VXJUBcg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddk8VXJUBcg and B/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh0KabcfT3w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh0KabcfT3w (both versions being a little short on rum and the lash) EDIT: my aural comprehension is poor, yours did mention a бутылка рому. Pedantry: "hoist the colours" (compare Поднять все флаги), but "hoist by their own petard" (loosely compare Ёж — птица гордая: не пнёшь — не полетит) EDIT2: icymi, the sky blue berets in particular are worn by these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QJOZBtToKY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QJOZBtToKY (judging by the efforts they're putting into passing for het in this clip, I wouldn't call several of them "sky blue guys" in public — not without a MANPADS handy*, at least) * in which case, as the Kadyrovtsy have discovered, flying low and slow results in a ride on, not the black pearl, but the black tulip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBAwN2YaTE8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBAwN2YaTE8 EDIT3: on the slight chance you were asking for lyrics instead of giving me a "paper chase" hunt: https://www.smule.com/song/даниэла-устинова-пираты-карибского-моря-karaoke-lyrics/13187836_13187836/arrangement https://www.smule.com/song/даниэла-устинова-пираты-карибског... > You're either with us, or you're overboard. (Ты либо с нами, Либо за борт) —DVU > You're either on the bus, or you're off the bus. —KEK
        gradschoolfail 2y ago
        Aha always surprised by the effort (or sheer enjoyment?) Regret i that i cant match the verve.. A couple of points while i absorb these tubes: 1) lyrics to wellermans apple would be a mashup of a) https://lyricstranslate.com/en/new-zealand-folk-wellerman-russian & b) (you may choose between red, black, or white (the last one is trickiest) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yablochko https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Яблочко … thus creating a bluesky composition? (Defer to wikipedia-aproved vexillology by Nathan Evans) 2) a self-policing of tone (more accurately, tint? Also note the singular red) would achieve ontopicality here https://youtube.com/watch?v=4oB89nvdrdA
        2y ago

082349872349872 2y ago

see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_term#Color-term_hierarchy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_term#Color-term_hierarch...