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when I renovate my bathroom I'm making a perfectly flat surface just for the scales. Bathroom floors are not flat and when you put scales on them the torquing o

when I renovate my bathroom I'm making a perfectly flat surface just for the scales. Bathroom floors are not flat and when you put scales on them the torquing of the scales messes with its mesurements. I can move my "smart scales" around the room and get a different result each time.

Yodel0914 2y ago
It would be less work to turn "bathroom scales" into "bedroom scales". Bathroom floors are not level for a good reason.
- quesera 2y ago
  > Bathroom floors are not level for a good reason Most residential bathrooms do not include a drain in the middle, at least in my part of the world. Most residential bathroom floors here are as level as the tradesman can get them.
  - 1d22a 2y ago
    Huh, interesting. That's not the case in Australia, in all the houses I've seen. I always thought it was smart, though.
    - quesera 2y ago
      It's very common (maybe even code?) in commercial bathrooms in the US as well. Not sure if the residential code is lagging, or if it's just not a popular design here.
      - rainbowzootsuit 2y ago
        No floor drains are required in commercial ICC code, but they're a really good idea. https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IPC2021P3/chapter-4-fixtures-faucets-and-fixture-fittings#IPC2021P3_Ch04_Sec403.1 https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IPC2021P3/chapter-4-fixtur...
      - Yodel0914 2y ago
        Where I am in Aus, you can either have floor drains (with a specified fall in the floor) or each basin/bath has to have built-in overflow prevention.
Loughla 2y ago
Is it really that important to weigh yourself THAT accurately? Your weight fluctuates throughout the day anyways, right?
- Terr_ 2y ago
  Yeah, even with a perfect measuring-scale, people should be ignoring its daily reading in favor of a running average across multiple days.
  - adrian_b 2y ago
    A running average is useless for something like a weight-losing diet (or for a weight-increasing diet). It is good only for verifying that your weight is stable. When you are serious about losing weight, you must measure your weight every day at the same time and in the same relationship vs. eating/drinking and eliminating that. You must lose weight neither too slow, nor too fast. A rate of around 100 to 150 grams per day is good. Especially at the beginning of losing weight, accurate measurements of the weight are essential for adjusting the diet, i.e. when there is no weight loss one must eat less, and when the weight loss is too great, one can eat more. A running average could not guide efficiently your decisions for the current day, whether to eat more or less. Most likely it would result in big oscillations around the ideal weight losing rate.
    - gruez 2y ago
      Can you really measure your weight that accurately? What about your body's hydration level, or whether you've just taken a dump or not? Those would probably skew your measurement by half a pound.
      - adrian_b 2y ago
        Like I have said, you have to take the measurement every day at the same time and in the same order with respect to eating, drinking and dumps. And yes, you can measure that accurately. I had been obese for many years and I had many failed attempts to lose weight. This has changed only after I bought accurate digital scales and I have started to measure carefully, every day at the same time and in the same conditions. During a day, your weight will vary a lot, perhaps by more than two pounds between the maximum and the minimum. Nevertheless, if you take care to measure at the same point every day, the accuracy is good enough, the uncertainty is less than 1/10 of a pound, if you are careful. When I was losing weight, I could see very clearly the effect of eating one spoon more or one spoon less per day of certain foods, so I was eventually able to lose one third of my initial body weight, in about ten months.
cruffle_duffle 2y ago
Just build it into the floor like they build truck scales into the road.
- seanhunter 2y ago
  ...or just gain weight up to the point you can use an actual truck scale to weigh yourself. Seems more efficient to me.
- dspillett 2y ago
  That leaves you with a problem when it breaks, or the maker goes out of business so all the smart features (or in some cases the basic ones too) stop working, or the maker decides it isn't taking enough money from you so starts hawking ads before it'll show you any or your information, … You'll probably have a remodelling job to do to make any replacement device fit, rather than just placing the new device on the same flat surface.

Yodel0914 2y ago

It would be less work to turn "bathroom scales" into "bedroom scales". Bathroom floors are not level for a good reason.

quesera 2y ago
> Bathroom floors are not level for a good reason Most residential bathrooms do not include a drain in the middle, at least in my part of the world. Most residential bathroom floors here are as level as the tradesman can get them.
- 1d22a 2y ago
  Huh, interesting. That's not the case in Australia, in all the houses I've seen. I always thought it was smart, though.
  - quesera 2y ago
    It's very common (maybe even code?) in commercial bathrooms in the US as well. Not sure if the residential code is lagging, or if it's just not a popular design here.
    - rainbowzootsuit 2y ago
      No floor drains are required in commercial ICC code, but they're a really good idea. https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IPC2021P3/chapter-4-fixtures-faucets-and-fixture-fittings#IPC2021P3_Ch04_Sec403.1 https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IPC2021P3/chapter-4-fixtur...
    - Yodel0914 2y ago
      Where I am in Aus, you can either have floor drains (with a specified fall in the floor) or each basin/bath has to have built-in overflow prevention.

Loughla 2y ago

Is it really that important to weigh yourself THAT accurately? Your weight fluctuates throughout the day anyways, right?

Terr_ 2y ago
Yeah, even with a perfect measuring-scale, people should be ignoring its daily reading in favor of a running average across multiple days.
- adrian_b 2y ago
  A running average is useless for something like a weight-losing diet (or for a weight-increasing diet). It is good only for verifying that your weight is stable. When you are serious about losing weight, you must measure your weight every day at the same time and in the same relationship vs. eating/drinking and eliminating that. You must lose weight neither too slow, nor too fast. A rate of around 100 to 150 grams per day is good. Especially at the beginning of losing weight, accurate measurements of the weight are essential for adjusting the diet, i.e. when there is no weight loss one must eat less, and when the weight loss is too great, one can eat more. A running average could not guide efficiently your decisions for the current day, whether to eat more or less. Most likely it would result in big oscillations around the ideal weight losing rate.
  - gruez 2y ago
    Can you really measure your weight that accurately? What about your body's hydration level, or whether you've just taken a dump or not? Those would probably skew your measurement by half a pound.
    - adrian_b 2y ago
      Like I have said, you have to take the measurement every day at the same time and in the same order with respect to eating, drinking and dumps. And yes, you can measure that accurately. I had been obese for many years and I had many failed attempts to lose weight. This has changed only after I bought accurate digital scales and I have started to measure carefully, every day at the same time and in the same conditions. During a day, your weight will vary a lot, perhaps by more than two pounds between the maximum and the minimum. Nevertheless, if you take care to measure at the same point every day, the accuracy is good enough, the uncertainty is less than 1/10 of a pound, if you are careful. When I was losing weight, I could see very clearly the effect of eating one spoon more or one spoon less per day of certain foods, so I was eventually able to lose one third of my initial body weight, in about ten months.

cruffle_duffle 2y ago

Just build it into the floor like they build truck scales into the road.

seanhunter 2y ago
...or just gain weight up to the point you can use an actual truck scale to weigh yourself. Seems more efficient to me.
dspillett 2y ago
That leaves you with a problem when it breaks, or the maker goes out of business so all the smart features (or in some cases the basic ones too) stop working, or the maker decides it isn't taking enough money from you so starts hawking ads before it'll show you any or your information, … You'll probably have a remodelling job to do to make any replacement device fit, rather than just placing the new device on the same flat surface.