Try to understand the difference between not using a framework and inventing your own framework. No one in this thread advocated writing their own framework. I

Try to understand the difference between not using a framework and inventing your own framework. No one in this thread advocated writing their own framework. I originally pointed out that PHP and Go include everything you need to write web applications in the language and standard libraries. They don't need a framework at all. Yes, frameworks have some advantages as you listed. And they have disadvantages. Before doing the same thing over again with Laravel, or Goravel (the original topic of this thread) think hard about the trade-offs. Frameworks impose limitations, on both the application and the programmer.