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How? Likely bribes. No way around it in parts of the world. Have to grease the wheels of diplomacy.

by notyourwork 2y ago

haliskerbas 2y ago
Including the US, but here bribes are legal, it's called lobbying!
- Log_out_ 2y ago
  actually not comparable in price and scale. lobbying is cheap and limited, while bribes often become buisness ending very fast .
  - hulitu 2y ago
    > lobbying is cheap I heard Google and Microsoft spent bilions on EU lobby.
infamouscow 2y ago
The places that don't have bribery call it lobbying. That way, the politicians can look down on other governments for the lack of sophistication in their corruption.
- Y_Y 2y ago
  > The places that don't have bribery This is an interesting sci-fi premise, but hard to imagine.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > places that don't have bribery call it lobbying You're describing people without a civics education. Bribes (direct or promised after term), campaign contributions (direct and via PACs) and lobbying (direct and paid) are categorically distinct.
  - PeterCorless 2y ago
    Reminder a certain political group are trying to make bribery legal in the U.S. by calling it a "tip."
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > Reminder a certain political group are trying to make bribery legal in the U.S. by calling it a "tip" Source? (My search keeps turning up Tip O'Neill.)
      - AnimalMuppet 2y ago
        I suspect they are referring to the recent US Supreme Court decision.
        PeterCorless 2y ago
        Yes. Two issues, really. First, high wealth individuals could accept "tips" to get paid millions without any tax. And you could "tip" a Congressperson and it would not be called a bribe. https://www.americanprogress.org/article/sen-ted-cruzs-no-tax-on-tips-act-does-little-for-low-and-moderate-wage-workers-but-opens-door-to-tax-abuse-by-wealthy/ https://www.americanprogress.org/article/sen-ted-cruzs-no-ta... https://www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2024/07/us-supreme-court-holds-that-federal-bribery-law-does-not-criminalize-gratuities https://www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2024/07/us-sup...

How? Likely bribes. No way around it in parts of the world. Have to grease the wheels of diplomacy.

haliskerbas 2y ago

Including the US, but here bribes are legal, it's called lobbying!

Log_out_ 2y ago
actually not comparable in price and scale. lobbying is cheap and limited, while bribes often become buisness ending very fast .
- hulitu 2y ago
  > lobbying is cheap I heard Google and Microsoft spent bilions on EU lobby.

infamouscow 2y ago

The places that don't have bribery call it lobbying. That way, the politicians can look down on other governments for the lack of sophistication in their corruption.

Y_Y 2y ago
> The places that don't have bribery This is an interesting sci-fi premise, but hard to imagine.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> places that don't have bribery call it lobbying You're describing people without a civics education. Bribes (direct or promised after term), campaign contributions (direct and via PACs) and lobbying (direct and paid) are categorically distinct.
- PeterCorless 2y ago
  Reminder a certain political group are trying to make bribery legal in the U.S. by calling it a "tip."
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > Reminder a certain political group are trying to make bribery legal in the U.S. by calling it a "tip" Source? (My search keeps turning up Tip O'Neill.)
    - AnimalMuppet 2y ago
      I suspect they are referring to the recent US Supreme Court decision.
      - PeterCorless 2y ago
        Yes. Two issues, really. First, high wealth individuals could accept "tips" to get paid millions without any tax. And you could "tip" a Congressperson and it would not be called a bribe. https://www.americanprogress.org/article/sen-ted-cruzs-no-tax-on-tips-act-does-little-for-low-and-moderate-wage-workers-but-opens-door-to-tax-abuse-by-wealthy/ https://www.americanprogress.org/article/sen-ted-cruzs-no-ta... https://www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2024/07/us-supreme-court-holds-that-federal-bribery-law-does-not-criminalize-gratuities https://www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2024/07/us-sup...