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> semi-skilled programmers Elitism is not welcome here. Are you a "semi-skilled" programmer if you are a web dev and don't know C++ and pointers? Are you a "se
by gjsman-1000 2y ago
> semi-skilled programmers
Elitism is not welcome here. Are you a "semi-skilled" programmer if you are a web dev and don't know C++ and pointers? Are you a "semi-skilled" programmer if you are an embedded developer and don't know JavaScript?
> If you only know a framework
This makes the assumption that by knowing a framework, you will be unable to learn how to use the language at large. This is not necessarily true - a person who has learned Laravel will probably figure out CakePHP or CodeIgniter in a weekend. They just prefer Laravel for their jobs, and that's a legitimate choice. They've also made the decision that, even though Laravel makes breaking changes over time, the productivity boosts are greater than the downtime.
Which is also a legitimate choice when Laravel upgrades have been automated for years for $29. https://laravelshift.com/ https://laravelshift.com/
- gregjor 2y agoSemi-skilled means knowing a framework to some degree, but struggling with the language the framework is written in. Nothing to do with C++ or embedded -- I clearly contrasted Laravel et al. with PHP, and Goravel with Go. Anyone who prefers Laravel or any other framework can use it. I wrote that neither PHP nor Go need a framework because they have everything necessary to implement web applications. If you don't want to get laid off because everyone and their mother, and now LLMs, can copy-paste Laravel sample code for $15/hr (see Upwork, for example) improve your skills. If you want to have more opportunities in the programming job market expand beyond frameworks and learn the underlying languages and libraries.
- gjsman-1000 2y agoAt this point you’re just making stuff up. https://www.upwork.com/hire/laravel-developer/us/ https://www.upwork.com/hire/laravel-developer/us/