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It doesn't raise standards. It squishes them at both ends, particularly the top. That might be what you want, but tech salaries have bloomed massively because t

It doesn't raise standards. It squishes them at both ends, particularly the top. That might be what you want, but tech salaries have bloomed massively because there isn't a union. You might say "that's over; now let's lock in our massive salaries", but I doubt it'll work that way. Tech isn't hyper-individualist. It just leans slightly to the individual, because any half-decent tech worker is worth a lot to an organisation, and they don't need a union rep to negotiate on their (and hundreds of other people's) behalf.

triceratops 2y ago
> tech salaries have bloomed massively because there isn't a union I presume you support free markets, so I'm surprised that supply and demand never crossed your mind as the reason for high tech salaries. Professional athletes, actors, and screenwriters enjoy both high salaries and union protections.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  > I'm surprised that supply and demand never crossed your mind as the reason for high tech salaries No need to be surprised - it more than crossed my mind. > Professional athletes, actors, and screenwriters enjoy both high salaries and union protections Well, screenwriters aren't in the same ballpark as the other two, but the highly paid athletes and actors are not having their wages negotiated by a union rep. They have agents. Most actors are barely paid anything, and have union membership.
  - charlesabarnes 2y ago
    Base pay is absolutely negotiated by sport union reps. It sets a quality of life standard for participants in their respective leagues
  - triceratops 2y ago
    You declared there are high salaries in software because "there isn't a union". Supply and demand didn't factor in. Food service and retail workers are not widely unionized. Do they have high salaries? > the highly paid athletes and actors are not having their wages negotiated by a union rep So then you understand even with a union, workers can be free to negotiate their own wages. The union doesn't necessarily hold superstars back from earning their true market value.

triceratops 2y ago

> tech salaries have bloomed massively because there isn't a union I presume you support free markets, so I'm surprised that supply and demand never crossed your mind as the reason for high tech salaries. Professional athletes, actors, and screenwriters enjoy both high salaries and union protections.

robertlagrant 2y ago
> I'm surprised that supply and demand never crossed your mind as the reason for high tech salaries No need to be surprised - it more than crossed my mind. > Professional athletes, actors, and screenwriters enjoy both high salaries and union protections Well, screenwriters aren't in the same ballpark as the other two, but the highly paid athletes and actors are not having their wages negotiated by a union rep. They have agents. Most actors are barely paid anything, and have union membership.
- charlesabarnes 2y ago
  Base pay is absolutely negotiated by sport union reps. It sets a quality of life standard for participants in their respective leagues
- triceratops 2y ago
  You declared there are high salaries in software because "there isn't a union". Supply and demand didn't factor in. Food service and retail workers are not widely unionized. Do they have high salaries? > the highly paid athletes and actors are not having their wages negotiated by a union rep So then you understand even with a union, workers can be free to negotiate their own wages. The union doesn't necessarily hold superstars back from earning their true market value.