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The "glare handling" pictures makes me wonder why anybody would buy a portable device (=to sometimes be used outdoors) and be happy with those outrageous reflec

by Gring 14y ago

The "glare handling" pictures makes me wonder why anybody would buy a portable device (=to sometimes be used outdoors) and be happy with those outrageous reflections. I mean, you can barely see the content! http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review/4 http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-w... With the new decice, Aplle again tries to makes those unusable mirrors the only display you can order. I'll pass.

tedunangst 14y ago
Not everyone buys a portable device to use it outdoors. Some people just like moving room to room indoors.
- graeme 14y ago
  I often switch between: * office desk * standing desk (really an ikea shelf) * kitchen table * couch * cafe (very easy to carry) Have a three pound computer means I don't even have to think about these switches.
wmf 14y ago
Glossy displays do have better contrast and lower black levels.
scott_s 14y ago
You really equate "portable" with "to be used outdoors"? I can't recall ever using my laptops outside.
astrange 14y ago
Glossy displays are exclusively better in controlled lighting, because their black levels are actually good. Controlled lighting is not difficult to achieve and is already a necessity for graphics work. Actually, it can even be better outside. A screen with reflections on it is not as bad as a screen that you can't see due to low contrast. (I'm currently using a matte desktop LCD, but wasted tons of time looking for a model with an 8-bit screen and good contrast.)
- majormajor 14y ago
  Whatever happened to the matte-ish finish used on some late-90s-and-on CRTs? I had some with way less glare than my MBP, and, being a CRT, about as perfect black levels as you're going to get.
dhughes 14y ago
I can't understand why Apple offers a glossy display, the screen has to be angled slightly and that's the perfect setup for glare from ambient light. It's like trying to read a glossy magazine and you keep having to shift around to see it avoiding the glare off the page. Whether it makes blacks blacker or colours sharper the end result is it's annoying.
- sliverstorm 14y ago
  It makes the display 'pop' indoors, some people like shiny things, and it is a popular platform for art-stuff.
  - Tloewald 14y ago
    And they're cheaper to make.
xtractinator 14y ago
I can hardly use it indoors the glare is so bad. Luckily my workplace also has the much more practical ThinkPad available. When you compare them side by side... I'll just say it's clear what the designers were after.
Synaesthesia 14y ago
Personally I find the glare from matte displays far more annoying than that from glossy. It diffuses across the whole display and makes contrast much worse
- DanBC 14y ago
  It's interesting how people's personal preferences affect these things. I hate the gloss on my MacBookPro because it makes it very hard to watch any movie without being distracted by reflections on the screen. I accept that it's an excellent screen, and if I was in a better environment (or doing professional work) I'd be grateful for the good screen. At least we're not still using these things anymore. (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=screen%20filter https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=screen%20filter)

by Gring 14y ago

tedunangst 14y ago

Not everyone buys a portable device to use it outdoors. Some people just like moving room to room indoors.

graeme 14y ago
I often switch between: * office desk * standing desk (really an ikea shelf) * kitchen table * couch * cafe (very easy to carry) Have a three pound computer means I don't even have to think about these switches.

wmf 14y ago

Glossy displays do have better contrast and lower black levels.

scott_s 14y ago

You really equate "portable" with "to be used outdoors"? I can't recall ever using my laptops outside.

astrange 14y ago

Glossy displays are exclusively better in controlled lighting, because their black levels are actually good. Controlled lighting is not difficult to achieve and is already a necessity for graphics work. Actually, it can even be better outside. A screen with reflections on it is not as bad as a screen that you can't see due to low contrast. (I'm currently using a matte desktop LCD, but wasted tons of time looking for a model with an 8-bit screen and good contrast.)

majormajor 14y ago
Whatever happened to the matte-ish finish used on some late-90s-and-on CRTs? I had some with way less glare than my MBP, and, being a CRT, about as perfect black levels as you're going to get.

dhughes 14y ago

I can't understand why Apple offers a glossy display, the screen has to be angled slightly and that's the perfect setup for glare from ambient light. It's like trying to read a glossy magazine and you keep having to shift around to see it avoiding the glare off the page. Whether it makes blacks blacker or colours sharper the end result is it's annoying.

sliverstorm 14y ago
It makes the display 'pop' indoors, some people like shiny things, and it is a popular platform for art-stuff.
- Tloewald 14y ago
  And they're cheaper to make.

xtractinator 14y ago

I can hardly use it indoors the glare is so bad. Luckily my workplace also has the much more practical ThinkPad available. When you compare them side by side... I'll just say it's clear what the designers were after.

Synaesthesia 14y ago

Personally I find the glare from matte displays far more annoying than that from glossy. It diffuses across the whole display and makes contrast much worse

DanBC 14y ago
It's interesting how people's personal preferences affect these things. I hate the gloss on my MacBookPro because it makes it very hard to watch any movie without being distracted by reflections on the screen. I accept that it's an excellent screen, and if I was in a better environment (or doing professional work) I'd be grateful for the good screen. At least we're not still using these things anymore. (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=screen%20filter https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=screen%20filter)