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Okay, i interpreted your previous writing on TA to mean that TA-guided attempts to stay in ST mode would still be unstable towards insanity. as a contrived exa

Okay, i interpreted your previous writing on TA to mean that TA-guided attempts to stay in ST mode would still be unstable towards insanity. as a contrived example to argue that point, the advantage has been adapted into YC’s metric for equity transferees. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9239203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9239203 In order to keep things simple, lets forget abt memes, because i’m more interested in the failure modes of Straight Talk no BS OG TA.

082349872349872 2y ago
while I (attempt to) reread Berne, here's a possibly interesting Victorian trichotomy (probably in different terms than I give here): attributes - things you were born with accomplishments - things you have via practice (paid the time) acquisitions - things you have via purchase (paid the cash) [and I'm calling Altman's anecdote weak sauce; I agree it's hustle not hack. Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c412hqucHKw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c412hqucHKw ] EDIT: showing up on the client's doorstep has been done by salescritters since the day after commission was invented. A hack involves exploiting a property of a system that no one had previously realised exploitable. (Note here that despite popular usage, I only consider most computer crackers to be airquote "hackers".)
082349872349872 2y ago
The failure mode of Straight Talk OG TA (according to Berne) is that it's not a universal sol'n (at best a Kolmogorov Option?): > The somber picture presented in Parts I and II of this book, in which human life is mainly a process of filling in time until the arrival of death, or Santa Claus, with very little choice, if any, of what kind of business one is going to transact during the long wait, is a commonplace but not the final answer. For certain fortunate people there is something which transcends all classifications of behavior, and that is awareness; something which rises above the programming of the past, and that is spontaneity; and something that is more rewarding than games, and that is intimacy. But all three of these may be frightening and even perilous to the unprepared. Perhaps they are better off as they are, seeking their solutions in popular techniques of social action, such as "togetherness." This may mean that there is no hope for the human race, but there is hope for individual members of it. (IIUC after hearing "all three of these may be frightening and even perilous to the unprepared", Michael Scott would be likely to retort "that's what she said")
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  Im probably still obsessed with having you riff more along the outlines of the footnote here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41481141 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41481141 insanity-inducing games are very intriguing! for the purposes of formalization
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    Sorry, all I'd meant was that Berne's typical games annoy me in exactly the same way spam or indiscreet advertising does (I have a lot of sympathy for the purported motives of the aliens encountered in Blindsight) so recognising the start of one and then (contra St G, "the ebbing tide"?) tuning out until it recedes, leaving one's kernel of sanity undissolved (and perhaps even lotus-like, letting the muddy vibe just bead up and roll off?), really helps in the equanimity department. I'll be low on bandwidth for the next few days, but will try to think of insanity inducing games. The glass bead game being good for pareidolia, I could imagine that if one played it to the point of seeing everything connected to everything else might lead to institutionalisation about as often as to enlightenment? (Mark Vonnegut's experience as detailed in The Eden Express (1975) suggest that mixing psychedelics with stress is an insanity-inducing game)

082349872349872 2y ago

while I (attempt to) reread Berne, here's a possibly interesting Victorian trichotomy (probably in different terms than I give here): attributes - things you were born with accomplishments - things you have via practice (paid the time) acquisitions - things you have via purchase (paid the cash) [and I'm calling Altman's anecdote weak sauce; I agree it's hustle not hack. Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c412hqucHKw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c412hqucHKw ] EDIT: showing up on the client's doorstep has been done by salescritters since the day after commission was invented. A hack involves exploiting a property of a system that no one had previously realised exploitable. (Note here that despite popular usage, I only consider most computer crackers to be airquote "hackers".)

082349872349872 2y ago

The failure mode of Straight Talk OG TA (according to Berne) is that it's not a universal sol'n (at best a Kolmogorov Option?): > The somber picture presented in Parts I and II of this book, in which human life is mainly a process of filling in time until the arrival of death, or Santa Claus, with very little choice, if any, of what kind of business one is going to transact during the long wait, is a commonplace but not the final answer. For certain fortunate people there is something which transcends all classifications of behavior, and that is awareness; something which rises above the programming of the past, and that is spontaneity; and something that is more rewarding than games, and that is intimacy. But all three of these may be frightening and even perilous to the unprepared. Perhaps they are better off as they are, seeking their solutions in popular techniques of social action, such as "togetherness." This may mean that there is no hope for the human race, but there is hope for individual members of it. (IIUC after hearing "all three of these may be frightening and even perilous to the unprepared", Michael Scott would be likely to retort "that's what she said")

gradschoolfail 2y ago
Im probably still obsessed with having you riff more along the outlines of the footnote here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41481141 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41481141 insanity-inducing games are very intriguing! for the purposes of formalization
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  Sorry, all I'd meant was that Berne's typical games annoy me in exactly the same way spam or indiscreet advertising does (I have a lot of sympathy for the purported motives of the aliens encountered in Blindsight) so recognising the start of one and then (contra St G, "the ebbing tide"?) tuning out until it recedes, leaving one's kernel of sanity undissolved (and perhaps even lotus-like, letting the muddy vibe just bead up and roll off?), really helps in the equanimity department. I'll be low on bandwidth for the next few days, but will try to think of insanity inducing games. The glass bead game being good for pareidolia, I could imagine that if one played it to the point of seeing everything connected to everything else might lead to institutionalisation about as often as to enlightenment? (Mark Vonnegut's experience as detailed in The Eden Express (1975) suggest that mixing psychedelics with stress is an insanity-inducing game)