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I don't understand how someone could believe this in 2024, it's extremely clear that Russia's design for Ukraine was to incorporate it back as a client state at
by some_random 2y ago
I don't understand how someone could believe this in 2024, it's extremely clear that Russia's design for Ukraine was to incorporate it back as a client state at least if not completely annex it. This has been their stated objective from day one of the invasion that they have continued to pursue to today.
- throw_pm23 2y agoIs it obvious that being a client state would be worse than the current situation?
- some_random 2y agoThat's a very personal question, one that you can only answer for yourself. Do you value freedom? Do you think it's worth fighting for? Is it worth suffering now so your nation can thrive later? Do you think it's worth taking a fight with a "bully" (aka a belligerent, exploitative actor) instead of giving in?
- pphysch 2y agoUkraine was among the most corrupt countries in Europe since 1991 -- no one (West or Rest) disputes this. It was politically very weak and prone to gravity from both Moscow and Brussels. To assert that Moscow wanted Ukraine as a "client state" but imply by omission that Brussels/Washington did not want Ukraine as a "client state" is simply disingenuous and disregards the entire political history of Ukraine since 1991.
- talldayo 2y ago> Ukraine was among the most corrupt countries in Europe since 1991 Among who, the USSR? It makes perfect sense that a nation seeking independence from the most corrupt European country would retain oligarchs that abuse their power. Plus, compared to other socialist republics like Hoxha's Albania, Ukraine had economic and political stability in spades.
- pphysch 2y agoHoxha wasn't even alive in 1991.