> We really haven't, we've reduced national jingoism and converted it into identity jingoism This is kinda what I mean-- instead of identifying with the nation

> We really haven't, we've reduced national jingoism and converted it into identity jingoism This is kinda what I mean-- instead of identifying with the nation (freedom & opportunity), a lot of people have latched onto their party instead, and this is an obvious disadvantage for social cohesion (you could even reframe this a bit as freedom vs opportunity, an interesting thought). I find it curious how your wording implies direction/intention/agency in these changes, which i personally don't believe to exist. Sure, some people owning large media might sit at a longer oar, but in the end we're all just along for the ride and no single person or entity really sits at the helm and controls how culture and society changes (in my view). edit: I honestly think that education is roughly better than it ever was-- I would not really blame it for this despite some failings (but got no US education personally).