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What's the point of owning a gaming console? You don´t really own the games anyway; as in being able to hand them over to a friend or sell them on a second mark

What's the point of owning a gaming console? You don´t really own the games anyway; as in being able to hand them over to a friend or sell them on a second market. Why not just stream the gameplay through big mainframes like Nvidia GaForce Now and the likes?

jamespo 2y ago
You can sell the discs? Admittedly the drive for this is an add on.
- a96 2y ago
  You can also loan, borrow, trade.. And you end up owning the media even when (not if) a network service is down. Even when the service is completely discontinued.
diggan 2y ago
> What's the point of owning a gaming console? Plug-and-play entertainment. I thought this was kind of well known at this point? > You don´t really own the games anyway; as in being able to hand them over to a friend or sell them on a second market. Isn't the same for most PC players who purchase games via Steam and Epic Store? You don't "own" those either. Most consoles at least has optional discs you could gift/sell on second hand market. > Why not just stream the gameplay through big mainframes like Nvidia GaForce Now and the likes? Not everyone lives in places where there is 10ms latency to the closest data center. Streaming only works OK when bandwidth is high and latency is low, which is probably less common than you think.
- edu 2y ago
  But with the time to update game, it’s often plug-wait-and-play. In this sense streaming games services are more plug and play, given what you say that you live in an area with good connectivity.
- TiredOfLife 2y ago
  > Not everyone lives in places where there is 10ms latency to the closest data center. Streaming only works OK when bandwidth is high and latency is low, which is probably less common than you think. You don't need 10ms anything below 40 is good. I get 20ms being 500km from datacenter.
Jleagle 2y ago
You need a quick reaction time for lots of games, many people have high ping times because of their internet provider or rubbish wifi. Ad for owning games, if you buy the game on disc, you can sell it, if you download it, you cant, that's on you.
- TiredOfLife 2y ago
  > You need a quick reaction time for lots of games, many people have high ping times because of their internet provider or rubbish wifi. There are situations where streaming has lower latency than local console. https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-geforce-now-rtx-3080-review-is-cloud-gaming-finally-a-viable-alternative https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-geforce-now-rt...
  - ProfessorLayton 2y ago
    This is still held back by garbage ISPs, which are plentiful in the US. Terrible wifi/modem combos and low data caps put a huge damper on game streaming.

jamespo 2y ago

You can sell the discs? Admittedly the drive for this is an add on.

a96 2y ago
You can also loan, borrow, trade.. And you end up owning the media even when (not if) a network service is down. Even when the service is completely discontinued.

diggan 2y ago

> What's the point of owning a gaming console? Plug-and-play entertainment. I thought this was kind of well known at this point? > You don´t really own the games anyway; as in being able to hand them over to a friend or sell them on a second market. Isn't the same for most PC players who purchase games via Steam and Epic Store? You don't "own" those either. Most consoles at least has optional discs you could gift/sell on second hand market. > Why not just stream the gameplay through big mainframes like Nvidia GaForce Now and the likes? Not everyone lives in places where there is 10ms latency to the closest data center. Streaming only works OK when bandwidth is high and latency is low, which is probably less common than you think.

edu 2y ago
But with the time to update game, it’s often plug-wait-and-play. In this sense streaming games services are more plug and play, given what you say that you live in an area with good connectivity.
TiredOfLife 2y ago
> Not everyone lives in places where there is 10ms latency to the closest data center. Streaming only works OK when bandwidth is high and latency is low, which is probably less common than you think. You don't need 10ms anything below 40 is good. I get 20ms being 500km from datacenter.

Jleagle 2y ago

You need a quick reaction time for lots of games, many people have high ping times because of their internet provider or rubbish wifi. Ad for owning games, if you buy the game on disc, you can sell it, if you download it, you cant, that's on you.

TiredOfLife 2y ago
> You need a quick reaction time for lots of games, many people have high ping times because of their internet provider or rubbish wifi. There are situations where streaming has lower latency than local console. https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-geforce-now-rtx-3080-review-is-cloud-gaming-finally-a-viable-alternative https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-geforce-now-rt...
- ProfessorLayton 2y ago
  This is still held back by garbage ISPs, which are plentiful in the US. Terrible wifi/modem combos and low data caps put a huge damper on game streaming.