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Ah yes, because LLMs and Generative AI are the peak of AI technology. And in these two years they have been popular, we should have already seen trillion gazill

Ah yes, because LLMs and Generative AI are the peak of AI technology. And in these two years they have been popular, we should have already seen trillion gazillion dollar revenues. While yes, it is "brute force" and we'll probably find a way (and already have) to run it on vanilla machines, there is so much more to AI than LLM's and generating photos. And even LLM's and photo generation open up a bajillion usecases that would have taken years of research and development before. But nobody focuses on these - instead, they focus on S&P 500 companies and how they haven't earned much with GenAI. Because these companies are usually known as the peak of human creativity, imagination and are ready to jump on a new technology without much red tape in it. Honestly, it's been like two-three years tops. Even talking to tech startup CEO's I don't get the feeling they remotely understand the technology or application, as 90% of things I've heard them say is "oooh we could make a chatbot!" or "let's replace developers with it - oh it can't one shot generate my whole codebase? pft that sucks". If these folks don't know how to use it, surely Jim VP of Engineering #62 at ACME & CO that hasn't used any tech except ERP's for the last 10 years will have an idea how to.

perching_aix 2y ago
Do non-managers / not-business-owners have a better way of using these technologies? Or who exactly are you envisioning as possessing that supposed pinnacle of human creativity?
- thecupisblue 2y ago
  "non-managers / not-business-owners" usually do have a better way of using these technologies, unless the former have actually worked in the field or in the frontlines and then advanced to managers. It might sound condescending, but a lot, and I mean a loooooot of product managers, product heads, product owners, VP's, CEO's and such don't have a clue what they're doing or experience in the real world. One might be "oh but why are they CEO then", but hell, corporate incompetence is a real thing. I've met dozens, if not hundreds of PMs/POs who were hired based on "oh they have organisational skills and aren't an autist when it comes to talking". >"Or who exactly are you envisioning as possessing that supposed pinnacle of human creativity" Creative people. It's okay to say some people aren't creative. Most ticket-dragging meeting-slacking Jira people aren't it. I've met devs who had brilliant ideas on AI incorporation, only to be dismissed by the higher ups because they didn't understand it. I've talked to designers who's ideas could save hundreds of man-hours if implemented. But do you really think an average VP knows that they can use their existing component library to train an MMM to output pseudo-code from screenshot and then translate that into their real, existing components? Or that an LLM could be hooked up to auto-correct the mistakes in the input of tens of thousands workers that they actually have people check, wasting human souls on what is basically input formatting? Or shit, that it could even translate John from Warehouse's data directly into monthly reports without him having to go around asking stuff and wasting everyone's time? No, these people usually don't have a clue about the real-world process of actual work that goes on so, so of course they have a problem identifying leverage spots in it.
  - perching_aix 2y ago
    It's not really that I think C-suites all over the world are savants in current technologies. I will say that I might be coming at it from a biased perspective though where most my higher ups are exactly the kind where they do have actual work experience in tech. Rather, it's just that after multiple hackathons and several greenlit internal projects, there isn't a single one I wouldn't find an utter dogshit waste of money, time and effort. So while maybe we're just an unfortunate bunch who somehow all belong to that non-creative group, I struggle to imagine an actually good application of these technologies that are somehow all just being dismissed prematurely by those evil bean counters up there.

perching_aix 2y ago

Do non-managers / not-business-owners have a better way of using these technologies? Or who exactly are you envisioning as possessing that supposed pinnacle of human creativity?

thecupisblue 2y ago
"non-managers / not-business-owners" usually do have a better way of using these technologies, unless the former have actually worked in the field or in the frontlines and then advanced to managers. It might sound condescending, but a lot, and I mean a loooooot of product managers, product heads, product owners, VP's, CEO's and such don't have a clue what they're doing or experience in the real world. One might be "oh but why are they CEO then", but hell, corporate incompetence is a real thing. I've met dozens, if not hundreds of PMs/POs who were hired based on "oh they have organisational skills and aren't an autist when it comes to talking". >"Or who exactly are you envisioning as possessing that supposed pinnacle of human creativity" Creative people. It's okay to say some people aren't creative. Most ticket-dragging meeting-slacking Jira people aren't it. I've met devs who had brilliant ideas on AI incorporation, only to be dismissed by the higher ups because they didn't understand it. I've talked to designers who's ideas could save hundreds of man-hours if implemented. But do you really think an average VP knows that they can use their existing component library to train an MMM to output pseudo-code from screenshot and then translate that into their real, existing components? Or that an LLM could be hooked up to auto-correct the mistakes in the input of tens of thousands workers that they actually have people check, wasting human souls on what is basically input formatting? Or shit, that it could even translate John from Warehouse's data directly into monthly reports without him having to go around asking stuff and wasting everyone's time? No, these people usually don't have a clue about the real-world process of actual work that goes on so, so of course they have a problem identifying leverage spots in it.
- perching_aix 2y ago
  It's not really that I think C-suites all over the world are savants in current technologies. I will say that I might be coming at it from a biased perspective though where most my higher ups are exactly the kind where they do have actual work experience in tech. Rather, it's just that after multiple hackathons and several greenlit internal projects, there isn't a single one I wouldn't find an utter dogshit waste of money, time and effort. So while maybe we're just an unfortunate bunch who somehow all belong to that non-creative group, I struggle to imagine an actually good application of these technologies that are somehow all just being dismissed prematurely by those evil bean counters up there.