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The target of the case is wrong, it should be Ireland, not Apple. Many companies have unique (to them) tax benefits across the entire EU, some hidden under thin
by techpression 2y ago
The target of the case is wrong, it should be Ireland, not Apple. Many companies have unique (to them) tax benefits across the entire EU, some hidden under things like “electricity subsidies”. If the company pay what the country mandates, then the rest should be between the country and the EU, not the EU and the company.
- izacus 2y agoThe target for this case is Ireland. They lost the case and now need to fix what they charged wrongly. Again, what are you arguing about?
- tmtvl 2y agoThe argument is that because Ireland needs to recover money from Apple, Apple is going to have to pay that money, hence Apple is getting punished.
- jajko 2y agoThey are setting up an example for other companies doing same. Fuck with EU taxes, we will fuck you up (and lets be honest here, 13 billions absolutely nothing for Apple given 500+ million wealthy market they cater to). Law often does that to perpetrators. Ireland tried to save the shady deal by refusing the money it should have received (corruption in plain sight, with these sums its not unexpected it goes to highest places plus something about saving nation's public face), so this is how they got about it. Not sure its 100% best process but overall a very good move and precedent for future.
- mdhb 2y ago€13,000,000,000 is not “absolutely nothing”. It’s almost twice the entire EU defence fund budget. And just to be clear.. this is really an example of how badly Apple were actively robbing society through their tax avoidance bullshit.
- InsomniacL 2y ago> It’s almost twice the entire EU defence fund budget. The EU defence spend in 2022 was €240 billion.
- mdhb 2y agoThat’s very interesting but not what I said. https://defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu/eu-defence-industry/european-defence-fund-edf-official-webpage-european-commission_en https://defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu/eu-defence-indus...
- noname120 2y agoTrue, but IMO it's a bit misleading because you were using as a point of comparison something that sounded like the military budget of Europe without specifying that it's something completely different (that people probably never heard of — at least I didn't and neither did my grandparent). I'm not saying it's intentional or anything, just wanted to point it out.
- InsomniacL 2y agoIf you're referring to a single pot of money that exists to support Research and Development, you would typically refer to that as "The European Defence Fund" as "entire EU defence fund budget" would be interpreted differently.
- tankenmate 2y agoThat is the amount spent by EU member states on defence; not what the EU itself spent.
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