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Taildrop lets you send files between your personal devices on Tailscale network

39 points by janandonly 2y ago

baq 2y ago
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- nsbk 2y ago
  - tailtail
  - wongogue 2y ago
    Wasn’t that their original product?
- _cenw 2y ago
  tailsmbnfs? well, sort of. https://tailscale.com/kb/1369/taildrive https://tailscale.com/kb/1369/taildrive
nabla9 2y ago
The fact that this is a product is a failure for the internet at large (meaning the whole system SW, HW, OS, networks, not to be interpreted literally as only the notwork infrastructure).
- dangsux 2y ago
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- GTP 2y ago
  No, the Internet is a network made by connecting together different networks. Making it easy for different devices to talk to each other is the job of applications using such networks. I see no failure of the Internet here.
k_bx 2y ago
Too bad it doesn't work between different tailnets (users). Would love this.
- ctippett 2y ago
  Not just different tailnets, but it also only works between devices on the same tailnet that aren't tagged. Awesome feature otherwise – particularly useful for quickly sending files from my iPhone to a Windows machine. AirDrop still reins for transfers between Apple devices.
  - moritzruth 2y ago
    I’m sure these restrictions will be lifted for the full release version.
ZunarJ5 2y ago
I love and hate this feature, as it gives no progress or finished indicators.
- abdusco 2y ago
  Use the CLI. It prints the transfer speed and progress: /Applications/Tailscale.app/Contents/MacOS/Tailscale file cp /path/to/file my-device-name: (The colon : at the end is not a typo.)
  - ZunarJ5 2y ago
    Oh bless, thank you for this. I will throw it in my aliases.
jackhalford 2y ago
I’ve had a lot of success with Taildrive (still alpha) to share directories between devices in sync. e.g my keepassxc database lives on my homeserver, all devices access it through taildrive, this is impossible with iCloud drive because there is no linux integration.
stas2k 2y ago
I don't want to sound negative, but I genuinely don't get the premise of Tailscale. VPN as a service sounds wrong from security perspective, as you are giving away all the keys. The same goes to the VPN providers for Internet access, but that at least is not trusted as much as Tailscale is. These internal services that are annohnced are just... Services you can run on the Internet with TLS.
- baq 2y ago
  > VPN as a service sounds wrong from security perspective, as you are giving away all the keys. yes, that's the value proposition. storing keys securely isn't free. if your threat model makes you trust your vpn provider less than yourself, by all means do it yourself. > These internal services that are annohnced are just... Services you can run on the Internet with TLS. I don't want the internet to even know I'm running a service if I only run it for myself.
  - ubercore 2y ago
    Admittedly I use it for home stuff only, not a business, but I can much more securely provide a service on my tailnet by leaning on Tailscale to handle it for me than I can myself, without a significant amount of effort. I want to leave securely deploying services at work, at work, and lower my administrative overhead at home. For a lot of businesses of a certain size, I'm sure the math works out similarly.
- moritzruth 2y ago
  > VPN as a service sounds wrong from security perspective, as you are giving away all the keys. Tailscale’s Android and Linux clients are open-source[0] and based on WireGuard (which AFAIU is now part of the Linux kernel[1]). With other VPN software you may be owning the keys but you cannot verify what the program does. Tailscale requires a coordination server to function. This component is not open-source, but there is an open-source reimplementation called Headscale[2] that you can host on your own server. Additionally, there is "tailnet lock"[3]: > Tailnet lock lets you verify that no node is added to your tailnet without being signed by trusted nodes in your tailnet. When tailnet lock is enabled, even if Tailscale infrastructure is malicious or hacked, attackers can’t send or receive traffic on your tailnet. --- > These internal services that are annohnced are just... Services you can run on the Internet with TLS. I haven’t used Tailscale in a professional context, so I cannot comment on the usefulness there, but I am using it (with Headscale) in my homelab. It makes it very easy to access all the services spread onto multiple boxes from everywhere, let them all use the same AdGuard Home DNS server without having to configure them individually and tunnel all my traffic through my home internet connection using an exit node[4]. I normally use croc[5] for file transfers between boxes, but when I had to fetch some files from my Windows game streaming computer, it was easier to just use Taildrop because Tailscale was installed already. [0] https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WireGuard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WireGuard [2] https://headscale.net/ https://headscale.net/ [3] https://tailscale.com/kb/1226/tailnet-lock https://tailscale.com/kb/1226/tailnet-lock [4] https://tailscale.com/kb/1408/quick-guide-exit-nodes https://tailscale.com/kb/1408/quick-guide-exit-nodes [5] https://github.com/schollz/croc https://github.com/schollz/croc
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Panda_ 2y ago
Personally I would use something like a Reticulum Network for this kind of thing with a simple Python script to establish a Link between the two devices and send a Resource.

39 points by janandonly 2y ago

baq 2y ago

[flagged]

nsbk 2y ago
- tailtail
- wongogue 2y ago
  Wasn’t that their original product?
_cenw 2y ago
tailsmbnfs? well, sort of. https://tailscale.com/kb/1369/taildrive https://tailscale.com/kb/1369/taildrive

nabla9 2y ago

The fact that this is a product is a failure for the internet at large (meaning the whole system SW, HW, OS, networks, not to be interpreted literally as only the notwork infrastructure).

dangsux 2y ago
[dead]
GTP 2y ago
No, the Internet is a network made by connecting together different networks. Making it easy for different devices to talk to each other is the job of applications using such networks. I see no failure of the Internet here.

k_bx 2y ago

Too bad it doesn't work between different tailnets (users). Would love this.

ctippett 2y ago
Not just different tailnets, but it also only works between devices on the same tailnet that aren't tagged. Awesome feature otherwise – particularly useful for quickly sending files from my iPhone to a Windows machine. AirDrop still reins for transfers between Apple devices.
- moritzruth 2y ago
  I’m sure these restrictions will be lifted for the full release version.

ZunarJ5 2y ago

I love and hate this feature, as it gives no progress or finished indicators.

abdusco 2y ago
Use the CLI. It prints the transfer speed and progress: /Applications/Tailscale.app/Contents/MacOS/Tailscale file cp /path/to/file my-device-name: (The colon : at the end is not a typo.)
- ZunarJ5 2y ago
  Oh bless, thank you for this. I will throw it in my aliases.

jackhalford 2y ago

I’ve had a lot of success with Taildrive (still alpha) to share directories between devices in sync. e.g my keepassxc database lives on my homeserver, all devices access it through taildrive, this is impossible with iCloud drive because there is no linux integration.

stas2k 2y ago

I don't want to sound negative, but I genuinely don't get the premise of Tailscale. VPN as a service sounds wrong from security perspective, as you are giving away all the keys. The same goes to the VPN providers for Internet access, but that at least is not trusted as much as Tailscale is. These internal services that are annohnced are just... Services you can run on the Internet with TLS.

baq 2y ago
> VPN as a service sounds wrong from security perspective, as you are giving away all the keys. yes, that's the value proposition. storing keys securely isn't free. if your threat model makes you trust your vpn provider less than yourself, by all means do it yourself. > These internal services that are annohnced are just... Services you can run on the Internet with TLS. I don't want the internet to even know I'm running a service if I only run it for myself.
- ubercore 2y ago
  Admittedly I use it for home stuff only, not a business, but I can much more securely provide a service on my tailnet by leaning on Tailscale to handle it for me than I can myself, without a significant amount of effort. I want to leave securely deploying services at work, at work, and lower my administrative overhead at home. For a lot of businesses of a certain size, I'm sure the math works out similarly.
moritzruth 2y ago
> VPN as a service sounds wrong from security perspective, as you are giving away all the keys. Tailscale’s Android and Linux clients are open-source[0] and based on WireGuard (which AFAIU is now part of the Linux kernel[1]). With other VPN software you may be owning the keys but you cannot verify what the program does. Tailscale requires a coordination server to function. This component is not open-source, but there is an open-source reimplementation called Headscale[2] that you can host on your own server. Additionally, there is "tailnet lock"[3]: > Tailnet lock lets you verify that no node is added to your tailnet without being signed by trusted nodes in your tailnet. When tailnet lock is enabled, even if Tailscale infrastructure is malicious or hacked, attackers can’t send or receive traffic on your tailnet. --- > These internal services that are annohnced are just... Services you can run on the Internet with TLS. I haven’t used Tailscale in a professional context, so I cannot comment on the usefulness there, but I am using it (with Headscale) in my homelab. It makes it very easy to access all the services spread onto multiple boxes from everywhere, let them all use the same AdGuard Home DNS server without having to configure them individually and tunnel all my traffic through my home internet connection using an exit node[4]. I normally use croc[5] for file transfers between boxes, but when I had to fetch some files from my Windows game streaming computer, it was easier to just use Taildrop because Tailscale was installed already. [0] https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WireGuard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WireGuard [2] https://headscale.net/ https://headscale.net/ [3] https://tailscale.com/kb/1226/tailnet-lock https://tailscale.com/kb/1226/tailnet-lock [4] https://tailscale.com/kb/1408/quick-guide-exit-nodes https://tailscale.com/kb/1408/quick-guide-exit-nodes [5] https://github.com/schollz/croc https://github.com/schollz/croc

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Panda_ 2y ago

Personally I would use something like a Reticulum Network for this kind of thing with a simple Python script to establish a Link between the two devices and send a Resource.