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Google broke its reputation as the ideal employer and now it’s in an antitrust trial. I have to wonder whether the two are related.

richrichie 2y ago
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hkt 2y ago
Google has been heading this way for twenty years. Maybe just consider its behaviour in a very general way.
glenstein 2y ago
Google has certainly been less able to avoid antitrust scrutiny than the other tech giants. I think underappreciated aspect of Facebook's brand reinvention to Meta was the role it played in transforming their brand perception away from evil and toward merely bizarre. I do think a significant part of that transition was to avoid the fever pitch of antitrust scrutiny that they had been under, that now seems to have gone away. The heat was on Facebook, but they got out from under it. And now it's on Google.
- lotsofpulp 2y ago
  What market does Meta control?
  - hughesjj 2y ago
    Social media is what they're under antitrust for. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Trade_Commission_v._Meta_Platforms,_Inc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Trade_Commission_v._....
- janalsncm 2y ago
  The DOJ has a case open against Apple as well: https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-apple-inc https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-a...
  - odyssey7 2y ago
    The DOJ case for Google is going after Ad Tech—the company’s core revenue generator.
- doublepg23 2y ago
  Facebook is huge but what monopoly power does it hold? Me and many of my friends never interact with Meta and it hasn't been an issue. This isn't the case with Google.
  - fragmede 2y ago
    Even if you never use Facebook or Instagram, there's an ad profile for you that ads are ostensibly being shown to, that ad buyers pay for, same with Google.
  - j16sdiz 2y ago
    Meta allows 3rd party advertiser to upload their data to their platform... and they do, sometimes illegally. If your home address is on some advertiser's mail list, chance they are on meta's database as well.
- readyplayernull 2y ago
  It seems a private dinner does help: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerberg-undisclosed-dinner-white-house-october-n1087986 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerbe...
- left-struck 2y ago
  I actually think the Facebook thing has a lot more to do with the fact that they really aren’t a monopoly in the social media space anymore. They’re still evil but they’re not winning lol. In my country it seems like they have a monopoly on gen x with facebook, and significant market penetration with younger generations on instagram and WhatsApp, but there’s a lot of competition
- fasa99 2y ago
  Exactly. I have had dinner with "The Zuck" personally and he's quite charismatic and pleasant. This whole Howard Hughes tier eccentricities and spreading of rumors that he's some sort of lizard or robot (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aHQ1yQPwRo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aHQ1yQPwRo) and weird haircut are all part of his enormous ruse to hold and maintain maximum wealth. "I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger." - Mark Salamander Zuckerberg, inventor of the psyop superweapon facebooks that successfully destroyed social cohesion in over 200 nations and 4 billion people, under the flag of social cohesion no less.

richrichie 2y ago

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hkt 2y ago

Google has been heading this way for twenty years. Maybe just consider its behaviour in a very general way.

glenstein 2y ago

Google has certainly been less able to avoid antitrust scrutiny than the other tech giants. I think underappreciated aspect of Facebook's brand reinvention to Meta was the role it played in transforming their brand perception away from evil and toward merely bizarre. I do think a significant part of that transition was to avoid the fever pitch of antitrust scrutiny that they had been under, that now seems to have gone away. The heat was on Facebook, but they got out from under it. And now it's on Google.

lotsofpulp 2y ago
What market does Meta control?
- hughesjj 2y ago
  Social media is what they're under antitrust for. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Trade_Commission_v._Meta_Platforms,_Inc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Trade_Commission_v._....
janalsncm 2y ago
The DOJ has a case open against Apple as well: https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-apple-inc https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-a...
- odyssey7 2y ago
  The DOJ case for Google is going after Ad Tech—the company’s core revenue generator.
doublepg23 2y ago
Facebook is huge but what monopoly power does it hold? Me and many of my friends never interact with Meta and it hasn't been an issue. This isn't the case with Google.
- fragmede 2y ago
  Even if you never use Facebook or Instagram, there's an ad profile for you that ads are ostensibly being shown to, that ad buyers pay for, same with Google.
- j16sdiz 2y ago
  Meta allows 3rd party advertiser to upload their data to their platform... and they do, sometimes illegally. If your home address is on some advertiser's mail list, chance they are on meta's database as well.
readyplayernull 2y ago
It seems a private dinner does help: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerberg-undisclosed-dinner-white-house-october-n1087986 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerbe...
left-struck 2y ago
I actually think the Facebook thing has a lot more to do with the fact that they really aren’t a monopoly in the social media space anymore. They’re still evil but they’re not winning lol. In my country it seems like they have a monopoly on gen x with facebook, and significant market penetration with younger generations on instagram and WhatsApp, but there’s a lot of competition
fasa99 2y ago
Exactly. I have had dinner with "The Zuck" personally and he's quite charismatic and pleasant. This whole Howard Hughes tier eccentricities and spreading of rumors that he's some sort of lizard or robot (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aHQ1yQPwRo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aHQ1yQPwRo) and weird haircut are all part of his enormous ruse to hold and maintain maximum wealth. "I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger." - Mark Salamander Zuckerberg, inventor of the psyop superweapon facebooks that successfully destroyed social cohesion in over 200 nations and 4 billion people, under the flag of social cohesion no less.