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> OR at least you should be required to prominently mark the devices as "dependent on the manufacturer's servers" Right next to the prominent label about causi
by a2128 2y ago
> OR at least you should be required to prominently mark the devices as "dependent on the manufacturer's servers"
Right next to the prominent label about causing cancer in the state of California, presumably.
I feel a notice wouldn't work here because the average consumer wouldn't understand the implications of depending on the manufacturer's servers or what it even means, plus every smart doorbell or whatever would just include it so it's not like it'd affect any consumer's choice
- benoau 2y agoLove it. This product may be revoked at any time. This product incurs $30 billion in annual fees. This product sells your usage data.
- ddingus 2y agoYeah. The features present at time of purchase may be changed, downgraded, or removed at any time.
- salawat 2y agoWith no obligation from the manufacturer to inform you of changes, and even if one exists in law, whaddya tonna do about it? We're doing the take it or leave it approach.
- ddingus 2y agoYep. Major turn off. I do not buy, unless forced. Just have no need for the hassles.
- matheusmoreira 2y agoWhenever I come across a thing that contains a "terms of service" or "license agreement", I refuse to read it and make the assumption it says the following things: > you own nothing > the company owns everything > you have no rights > you promise not to try and exercise any right you think you have > just in case you ever get it in your silly little head that you do have any rights whatsoever, you agree to binding arbitration with the firm we pay > you cannot do anything the company doesn't like > the company can do literally anything it wants whether you like it or not > the company is not responsible for anything ever > the company makes absolutely no guarantees about anything > but you agree to indemnify us in all possible circumstances
- ddingus 2y agoThat, sadly, is an entirely reasonable take on all this.
- consteval 2y agoYeah these labeling requirements only work if you operate under the assumption companies will be truthful. But if they're truthful, we wouldn't require labels in the first place, they'd just do them. So it's dead in the water.