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They mention battery life in this release 11 times without saying how long the battery will last. Please Apple, even just a typical usage number would be great.

They mention battery life in this release 11 times without saying how long the battery will last. Please Apple, even just a typical usage number would be great. It's been many generations since I've had an Apple device, and each year they release a new one I try figure out how long the battery lasts, to no avail. Nobody I know has bought a Max Pro either. With Apple, you never know, it could still be 10 hours battery life. I mean they just released "ground-breaking" features like moveable icons, something I think Android had since Android 1. My point is one never knows.

jacobn 2y ago
The only number I could find was 22/27 hours of video playback for 16/16 Pro, you can compare that to older models on https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ that might give some indication?
- KoolKat23 2y ago
  Thanks this is perfect. That's really decent battery life.
  - saagarjha 2y ago
    Note that video playback is not very indicative of typical usage. You will probably get less than half that when using apps.
- nashashmi 2y ago
  is there anything that says why they were able to reach this feat?
  - metadaemon 2y ago
    I was reading and thought this was about as concrete as they got: "The new mechanical architecture improves heat dissipation and efficiency for up to 20 percent better sustained performance. Along with the new internal design and advanced power management of iOS 18, larger batteries are optimized to offer a huge leap in battery life."
    - whamlastxmas 2y ago
      The vast majority of energy use when watching videos is the screen, so my guess is that most of the improvement is from lower screen energy use when at its lowest brightness.
    - alt227 2y ago
      >advanced power management >larger batteries >optimized > a huge leap in battery life This is still all just marketing puff and air though. Also 20% better than what? This is designed so that when you try to nail them down, they can change what it is 20% better than.
callalex 2y ago
Still no user-replaceable battery even though they claim to care about the environment.
- lurking_swe 2y ago
  You can never please everyone. Not sure if you realize, it’s trivial to get a new battery replaced once every 3 or 4 years. Apple store can do it, as well 3rd party repair shops in most cities. Takes 15-45 minutes, depends how busy the shop is. Perhaps you’re more annoyed about right to repair in general? That’s a different story…
  - callalex 2y ago
    I just went through that process at an Apple Store less than 50 miles from Apple HQ. It took 4 and a half hours from my appointment time to having my repaired phone back. (And of course I couldn’t get work done because I didn’t have my phone, and I couldn’t warn the people who were expecting me of my delay, because I didn’t have my phone.) That’s completely unacceptable when it should only take 5-10 seconds. Edit: To head off any doubt, no my phone was not damaged, and the repair went smoothly. They were having an inventory tracking system outage with absolutely zero fallback/continuity plan and absolutely refused to give me my phone back, repaired or not.
    - sam29681749 2y ago
      So your scenario sounds like an exception to the rule.
      - callalex 2y ago
        Even in the best case scenario is objectively worse in every way than a 10s at-home battery swap. Especially for the vast majority of human beings that don’t live within a reasonable distance of an Apple Store. Keep in mind that most older phones end up on secondary markets in less wealthy countries. They could live for years there except for the failed batteries.
relaxing 2y ago
> moveable icons what’s this?
ksec 2y ago
They said 16 Pro Max having the best battery life ever without actually comparing to 15 Plus which was the previous battery king.
- system2 2y ago
  +%0.1 is +%0.1 legally. Shady marketing tactics from Apple as usual.

jacobn 2y ago

The only number I could find was 22/27 hours of video playback for 16/16 Pro, you can compare that to older models on https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ that might give some indication?

KoolKat23 2y ago
Thanks this is perfect. That's really decent battery life.
- saagarjha 2y ago
  Note that video playback is not very indicative of typical usage. You will probably get less than half that when using apps.
nashashmi 2y ago
is there anything that says why they were able to reach this feat?
- metadaemon 2y ago
  I was reading and thought this was about as concrete as they got: "The new mechanical architecture improves heat dissipation and efficiency for up to 20 percent better sustained performance. Along with the new internal design and advanced power management of iOS 18, larger batteries are optimized to offer a huge leap in battery life."
  - whamlastxmas 2y ago
    The vast majority of energy use when watching videos is the screen, so my guess is that most of the improvement is from lower screen energy use when at its lowest brightness.
  - alt227 2y ago
    >advanced power management >larger batteries >optimized > a huge leap in battery life This is still all just marketing puff and air though. Also 20% better than what? This is designed so that when you try to nail them down, they can change what it is 20% better than.

callalex 2y ago

Still no user-replaceable battery even though they claim to care about the environment.

lurking_swe 2y ago
You can never please everyone. Not sure if you realize, it’s trivial to get a new battery replaced once every 3 or 4 years. Apple store can do it, as well 3rd party repair shops in most cities. Takes 15-45 minutes, depends how busy the shop is. Perhaps you’re more annoyed about right to repair in general? That’s a different story…
- callalex 2y ago
  I just went through that process at an Apple Store less than 50 miles from Apple HQ. It took 4 and a half hours from my appointment time to having my repaired phone back. (And of course I couldn’t get work done because I didn’t have my phone, and I couldn’t warn the people who were expecting me of my delay, because I didn’t have my phone.) That’s completely unacceptable when it should only take 5-10 seconds. Edit: To head off any doubt, no my phone was not damaged, and the repair went smoothly. They were having an inventory tracking system outage with absolutely zero fallback/continuity plan and absolutely refused to give me my phone back, repaired or not.
  - sam29681749 2y ago
    So your scenario sounds like an exception to the rule.
    - callalex 2y ago
      Even in the best case scenario is objectively worse in every way than a 10s at-home battery swap. Especially for the vast majority of human beings that don’t live within a reasonable distance of an Apple Store. Keep in mind that most older phones end up on secondary markets in less wealthy countries. They could live for years there except for the failed batteries.

relaxing 2y ago

> moveable icons what’s this?

ksec 2y ago

They said 16 Pro Max having the best battery life ever without actually comparing to 15 Plus which was the previous battery king.

system2 2y ago
+%0.1 is +%0.1 legally. Shady marketing tactics from Apple as usual.