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The specific critique is literally right above. Did you read the comments we're talking about, or are you just triggered by the word 'fanboy'? In case it's too

by wubrr 2y ago

The specific critique is literally right above. Did you read the comments we're talking about, or are you just triggered by the word 'fanboy'? In case it's too difficult to grasp: >Reasonable person: 'The battery life is shit' >Apple fanboy: 'That's actually a good thing'

nozzlegear 2y ago
Sorry, I was actually asking what your critique of their comment was, specifically. Someone else offered a great critique of the product; someone else followed up saying they don't feel it's an issue; and then you came in throwing the word fanboy around with little critical thinking applied, and now you're using the original person's critique as though it's your own.
- wubrr 2y ago
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wlesieutre 2y ago
Their comment isn't wrong though, I had the same experience with Pebble. It wasn't part of my daily routine, so I would forget to charge it. With my Apple Watch I don't. That being said, the Apple Watch has issues of its own, like sometimes draining substantially faster for (as far as I can tell) absolutely no reason. Rebooting the watch and phone has sorted that out for me, and it's only happened a couple of times, but it's not a good problem to have on a device where you may need the whole battery to get through a day.
- wubrr 2y ago
  > It wasn't part of my daily routine, so I would forget to charge it. So maybe the problem is your daily routine, not the fact that the battery life is objectively better? It's like if you bought a laptop with too little RAM, and you try to explain that its actually an advantage because it forces you to run less applications. It's absurd to the max.
  - wlesieutre 2y ago
    Yes, longer battery life would be better. But aside from the times when I've had bug-induced battery drain, I never run out of battery and it's not something I worry about. So I also don't really care about the battery life being shorter than my Pebble's was. Apple could triple the battery life to 3 days, but as you've just pointed out it should still be part of my daily routine to charge it, and if I'm not charging it every day to make sure it's a habit this is a "problem" with my daily routine (your words). So supposing the battery gets better, and I fix my problematic routine and make sure to charge it every day, now the extra 2 days of battery life are literally pointless. So I can see why Apple has prioritized thinness over a larger battery.
    - wubrr 2y ago
      Your personal preference when it comes to not caring about battery life doesn't change the fact that Apple watch battery life is amongst the worst on the market. Just like if you don't care that your laptop has only 2GB RAM - that doesn't mean it's a good amount of RAM or some kind of advantage over 32GB of RAM. Explaining away objective deficiencies with personal preferences and anecdotes is not at all convincing or useful.
      - wlesieutre 2y ago
        If a laptop with 2 GB of RAM met my needs and I was happy with it, would you get in an argument with me about how actually my laptop is deficient because other laptops have bigger RAM numbers on their spec sheet, even if my RAM usage never exceeds 2 GB? I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree on how important battery life is. To me, improvements beyond “one day including some time with the GPS and heart rate sensors running” aren’t worth anything. I’d much rather they keep making it thinner, because compared to the Pebble Time its biggest deficiency is still how chunky it is. But of course your preferences may differ, and as you noted there are other smart watches on the market with longer battery life. I’m certainly not stopping you from using one of those instead if your preference is to prioritize long battery life.
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by wubrr 2y ago

nozzlegear 2y ago

Sorry, I was actually asking what your critique of their comment was, specifically. Someone else offered a great critique of the product; someone else followed up saying they don't feel it's an issue; and then you came in throwing the word fanboy around with little critical thinking applied, and now you're using the original person's critique as though it's your own.

wubrr 2y ago
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wlesieutre 2y ago

Their comment isn't wrong though, I had the same experience with Pebble. It wasn't part of my daily routine, so I would forget to charge it. With my Apple Watch I don't. That being said, the Apple Watch has issues of its own, like sometimes draining substantially faster for (as far as I can tell) absolutely no reason. Rebooting the watch and phone has sorted that out for me, and it's only happened a couple of times, but it's not a good problem to have on a device where you may need the whole battery to get through a day.

wubrr 2y ago
> It wasn't part of my daily routine, so I would forget to charge it. So maybe the problem is your daily routine, not the fact that the battery life is objectively better? It's like if you bought a laptop with too little RAM, and you try to explain that its actually an advantage because it forces you to run less applications. It's absurd to the max.
- wlesieutre 2y ago
  Yes, longer battery life would be better. But aside from the times when I've had bug-induced battery drain, I never run out of battery and it's not something I worry about. So I also don't really care about the battery life being shorter than my Pebble's was. Apple could triple the battery life to 3 days, but as you've just pointed out it should still be part of my daily routine to charge it, and if I'm not charging it every day to make sure it's a habit this is a "problem" with my daily routine (your words). So supposing the battery gets better, and I fix my problematic routine and make sure to charge it every day, now the extra 2 days of battery life are literally pointless. So I can see why Apple has prioritized thinness over a larger battery.
  - wubrr 2y ago
    Your personal preference when it comes to not caring about battery life doesn't change the fact that Apple watch battery life is amongst the worst on the market. Just like if you don't care that your laptop has only 2GB RAM - that doesn't mean it's a good amount of RAM or some kind of advantage over 32GB of RAM. Explaining away objective deficiencies with personal preferences and anecdotes is not at all convincing or useful.
    - wlesieutre 2y ago
      If a laptop with 2 GB of RAM met my needs and I was happy with it, would you get in an argument with me about how actually my laptop is deficient because other laptops have bigger RAM numbers on their spec sheet, even if my RAM usage never exceeds 2 GB? I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree on how important battery life is. To me, improvements beyond “one day including some time with the GPS and heart rate sensors running” aren’t worth anything. I’d much rather they keep making it thinner, because compared to the Pebble Time its biggest deficiency is still how chunky it is. But of course your preferences may differ, and as you noted there are other smart watches on the market with longer battery life. I’m certainly not stopping you from using one of those instead if your preference is to prioritize long battery life.
      - 2y ago