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Did you miss the very first thread, where I provided a link to the book containing the dataset, which came out 100 years before "online" invented?
by breck 2y ago
Did you miss the very first thread, where I provided a link to the book containing the dataset, which came out 100 years before "online" invented?
- hombre_fatal 2y agoI just skimmed the whole book. Could you point out any of these "datasets" you think exist in the book and how you think they support the claim that all these ailments stem from not closing our mouths while we sleep.
- breck 2y agoPage 2: "During my Ethnographic labours amongst those wild people I have visited 150 Tribes, containing more than two millions of souls ; and therefore have had, in all probability, more extensive opportunities than any other man living, of examining their sanitary system ;"
- wizzwizz4 2y agoThat's what you call a "very strong dataset"‽ It doesn't have a single controlled experiment! No studies of individuals in a population. It's just a series of anthropological observations, and then the author's guesses at the reasons for those observations. The book has stronger evidence for the harms of alcohol than mouth-breathing. This author is one of the good 19th-century anthropologists (as judged by his scathing criticism of the institutions of 19th-century anthropology), but he's still a 19th-century anthropologist. The books' framing device is the idea that “the Tribes of North and South America” (including Sioux! with horses!!) lived in a “primitive condition”: while his observations are careful, and believable, his conclusions are incredible leaps of logic. I can confidently assert that mouth-breathing does not deform the spine.
- breck 2y ago"During my Ethnographic labours amongst those wild people I have visited 150 Tribes, containing more than two millions of souls ;" > That's what you call a "very strong dataset"‽ Yes!!!
- wizzwizz4 2y agoThe book doesn't contain two million points of data. Count the actual number of statistics in the book: I doubt you'll get more than a dozen.
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- wizzwizz4 2y agoThat's an unusual use of language. Even by your standards, though, the book fails. The data mentioned in the book, while interesting, doesn't justify the author's claims.
- breck 2y agoHe had visited 150 tribes and all practiced closed mouths and all had excellent health and great teeth. Then, he had visited England which did not practice closed mouths and had poor health and poor teeth. That's strong advice.
- wizzwizz4 2y agoHe had visited 150 bands, none of whom spoke English (as a primary language) and all had excellent health and great teeth. Then, he visited England which did speak English (as a primary language) and had poor health and poor teeth. Frankly, the conclusion is irrefutable.
- breck 2y agoThere are no randomized controlled trials showing parachutes work. A working model of nature >> a large symbolic dataset >> a large personal dataset >> anecdotes. This is a bit of #1 and #3. Sure, #2 would be great, but #1 (mouth breathing bad) seems highly likely given both studying anatomy and modeling the physics of breathe and also given his dataset #3.