> that's still not the win you think it is when the material conditions of the average person is pretty awful all around. What? This is nonsense. > and that'

> that's still not the win you think it is when the material conditions of the average person is pretty awful all around. What? This is nonsense. > and that's not even considering [...] This is changing the subject, which one should probably take as conceding the previous point. Even granting all of this I'm pretty sure that life today almost everywhere on this planet is much less brutish for humans than it was 200 years ago, let alone 400, 2,000, 10,000, or 100,000 years ago.