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This was 2006 Google, which did stuff semi-altruistically all the time. At that point, SF was serving malware and stuff. It was really not a great time. Githu

This was 2006 Google, which did stuff semi-altruistically all the time. At that point, SF was serving malware and stuff. It was really not a great time. Github became a monoculture years later when others folded. Google code was shut down in 2016. Github wasn't quite a monoculture then. I also said, back in 2014, that it might be necessary to do something like google code again in 5-10 years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8605689 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8605689 10 years later, here we are i guess :) Though i think what i said then still holds - Github is not anywhere near as bad or unreliable as SF was.

BSDobelix 2y ago
SF served "malware" in 2013 NOT 2006: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Adware_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Adware_controversy After slashdot was purchased from condenast (i think?)
- naniwaduni 2y ago
  They had a bad name for the download pages being ad-infested even before they bundled the malware in the installers. (And yes, fake download buttons on a site serving binary downloads went exactly where you'd expect.)
  - BSDobelix 2y ago
    >fake download buttons Yes and today Ad-Sense (Google) took the Crown from being then biggest Scam AD's deploy-er. And really i don't think that's true before they where sold, ad's sure, scam/malware stuff? I don't think so...at least i cant remember.
- DannyBee 2y ago
  I mean, that's just when they did it fairly deliberately. Regardless, I think you would be hard pressed to argue SF was a great hosting environment when Google Code launched, which was the point.
  - BSDobelix 2y ago
    >hard pressed to argue SF was a great hosting environment when Google Code launched But SF had FTP, Websites, SVN hosting and i think even a WIKI, so you can hardly compare it with Google-Code...and hey at least they opensource'd their "forge": https://allura.apache.org/ https://allura.apache.org/ IDK i don't have such bad memory's about SF, even today you serve big files over SF because of GH limits.
    - ndiddy 2y ago
      SourceForge was originally open source, but they later closed it. GNU Savannah (https://savannah.gnu.org/ https://savannah.gnu.org/) runs on a fork of the last open version of SourceForge.
      - BSDobelix 2y ago
        >SourceForge was originally open source True after slashdot got buy'd, they also served malware AFTER the takeover (2013), and now look at that year: Allura graduated from incubation with the Apache Software Foundation in March >>2013 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Allura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Allura Google-Code was in 2006 right?
jiveturkey 2y ago
I do wish there were enough incentive to have a strong commercial gerrit offering. There are some very good ideas in gerrit, and it would have strong differentiation vs github-styled offerings. Not just because I like gerrit, but because the github monoculture is wearing on me.

BSDobelix 2y ago

SF served "malware" in 2013 NOT 2006: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Adware_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Adware_controversy After slashdot was purchased from condenast (i think?)

naniwaduni 2y ago
They had a bad name for the download pages being ad-infested even before they bundled the malware in the installers. (And yes, fake download buttons on a site serving binary downloads went exactly where you'd expect.)
- BSDobelix 2y ago
  >fake download buttons Yes and today Ad-Sense (Google) took the Crown from being then biggest Scam AD's deploy-er. And really i don't think that's true before they where sold, ad's sure, scam/malware stuff? I don't think so...at least i cant remember.
DannyBee 2y ago
I mean, that's just when they did it fairly deliberately. Regardless, I think you would be hard pressed to argue SF was a great hosting environment when Google Code launched, which was the point.
- BSDobelix 2y ago
  >hard pressed to argue SF was a great hosting environment when Google Code launched But SF had FTP, Websites, SVN hosting and i think even a WIKI, so you can hardly compare it with Google-Code...and hey at least they opensource'd their "forge": https://allura.apache.org/ https://allura.apache.org/ IDK i don't have such bad memory's about SF, even today you serve big files over SF because of GH limits.
  - ndiddy 2y ago
    SourceForge was originally open source, but they later closed it. GNU Savannah (https://savannah.gnu.org/ https://savannah.gnu.org/) runs on a fork of the last open version of SourceForge.
    - BSDobelix 2y ago
      >SourceForge was originally open source True after slashdot got buy'd, they also served malware AFTER the takeover (2013), and now look at that year: Allura graduated from incubation with the Apache Software Foundation in March >>2013 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Allura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Allura Google-Code was in 2006 right?

jiveturkey 2y ago

I do wish there were enough incentive to have a strong commercial gerrit offering. There are some very good ideas in gerrit, and it would have strong differentiation vs github-styled offerings. Not just because I like gerrit, but because the github monoculture is wearing on me.