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> Forgejo Switch to the fork of the fork - brilliant. Especially when the fork fork doesn't seem to do much except bicker and merge controversial PRs on occasi

> Forgejo Switch to the fork of the fork - brilliant. Especially when the fork fork doesn't seem to do much except bicker and merge controversial PRs on occasion. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39393794 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39393794

SamWhited 2y ago
I don't know how they're run internally, but they seem to have merged a lot of good features that the Codeberg folks developed, so they must do at least a bit more than bicker. What controversial PRs have they merged? I haven't heard about that and it makes me a bit nervous, but I'm not finding anything obviously wrong searching for it.
- lolinder 2y ago
  I can't speak to controversial PRs, but I got very nervous about Forgejo when they memory-holed a good faith critique of the appointment of a specific new moderator. Someone on HN linked a discussion where Forgejo was appointing a moderator [0] and had received pushback. A critic of the decision had said something along the lines of "this person has severely abused authority in this community in the past and I'm not comfortable with them getting new authority". They went back and forth for a bit with the maintainers, but by the time the link ended up on an HN thread they'd edited out the critic's comments with a warning not to post ad hominem attacks. At the time you could still read the critic's actual comments in the edit history and it was clear that they were being very reasonable. A few weeks later I went back to that thread and the entire discussion with the critic was gone. The moderator was appointed, and all record of the dissent was eliminated. If you go to that issue thread now, there are 10-12 comments that I read before that are now missing, and it looks like this person was appointed without dissent. That sketched me out, and I've been very cautious of Forgejo since. I trust Gitea even less, so I stick with Forgejo, but I wish I had better options. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39397269 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39397269 [1] https://codeberg.org/forgejo/governance/issues/78 https://codeberg.org/forgejo/governance/issues/78
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  - SamWhited 2y ago
    ouch; that does sound unfortunate, I'll look into it, thanks.
WolfeReader 2y ago
Instead of linking to comments (wtf), I'm gonna link to their surprisingly active list of merged PRs. https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/pulls?q=&type=all&sort=&state=closed&labels=&milestone=0&project=0&assignee=0&poster=0&archived=false https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/pulls?q=&type=all&sort=... Not sure what your claim about "doesn't seem to do much" is based on.
- rjzzleep 2y ago
  The first two pages are docs, dependency bot, and one XSS patch. Hard to know what's going on when 90% of those PRs are bot generated. Maybe they're active, maybe not, I certainly don't know, but it's definitely not clear from the link you posted.
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SamWhited 2y ago

I don't know how they're run internally, but they seem to have merged a lot of good features that the Codeberg folks developed, so they must do at least a bit more than bicker. What controversial PRs have they merged? I haven't heard about that and it makes me a bit nervous, but I'm not finding anything obviously wrong searching for it.

lolinder 2y ago
I can't speak to controversial PRs, but I got very nervous about Forgejo when they memory-holed a good faith critique of the appointment of a specific new moderator. Someone on HN linked a discussion where Forgejo was appointing a moderator [0] and had received pushback. A critic of the decision had said something along the lines of "this person has severely abused authority in this community in the past and I'm not comfortable with them getting new authority". They went back and forth for a bit with the maintainers, but by the time the link ended up on an HN thread they'd edited out the critic's comments with a warning not to post ad hominem attacks. At the time you could still read the critic's actual comments in the edit history and it was clear that they were being very reasonable. A few weeks later I went back to that thread and the entire discussion with the critic was gone. The moderator was appointed, and all record of the dissent was eliminated. If you go to that issue thread now, there are 10-12 comments that I read before that are now missing, and it looks like this person was appointed without dissent. That sketched me out, and I've been very cautious of Forgejo since. I trust Gitea even less, so I stick with Forgejo, but I wish I had better options. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39397269 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39397269 [1] https://codeberg.org/forgejo/governance/issues/78 https://codeberg.org/forgejo/governance/issues/78
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- SamWhited 2y ago
  ouch; that does sound unfortunate, I'll look into it, thanks.

WolfeReader 2y ago

Instead of linking to comments (wtf), I'm gonna link to their surprisingly active list of merged PRs. https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/pulls?q=&type=all&sort=&state=closed&labels=&milestone=0&project=0&assignee=0&poster=0&archived=false https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/pulls?q=&type=all&sort=... Not sure what your claim about "doesn't seem to do much" is based on.

rjzzleep 2y ago
The first two pages are docs, dependency bot, and one XSS patch. Hard to know what's going on when 90% of those PRs are bot generated. Maybe they're active, maybe not, I certainly don't know, but it's definitely not clear from the link you posted.
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