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Why yogurt? It doesn't contain carbonhydrates.

waihtis 2y ago
Basic greek yogurt is guaranteed to be healthy due to low sugar content & fermentation. Yogurt in this context probably refers to some kiddy yogurts loaded with sugar and additives.
nimchimpsky 2y ago
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Ekaros 2y ago
One you mix with oats might have... That is adding sugary fruit/berry yogurt to make oats more palatable. Same goes for bananas.
carlmr 2y ago
The headline is missing type 1. Type 2 is the one that is usually caused by insulin resistance.
bni 2y ago
Yoghurt (with some exceptions) contain lots of sugar. Better to eat greek yoghurt or quark.
- darkhorn 2y ago
  Oh, Jesus Christ! Why they don't write sugary yogurt? I forgot that Americans were consuming yogurt with sugar. Normally there is no sugar in the yogurt. There is sugar only if you add it. In the Balkans and Central Asia yogurt is sold without adding sugar.
  - dustincoates 2y ago
    It's not just Americans that add sugar to yogurt. [0][1] If you don't want to translate that, the second ingredient in the listing is sugar. The second link says that 50% of French people add sugar to the plain yogurt they buy from the store. 0: https://www.carrefour.fr/p/yaourt-fruits-mixes-brasse-carrefour-classic-3245412897993?t=36995 https://www.carrefour.fr/p/yaourt-fruits-mixes-brasse-carref... 1: https://www.cerin.org/breves-scientifiques/quelle-quantite-de-sucre-ajoute-t-on-dans-notre-yaourt-nature/ https://www.cerin.org/breves-scientifiques/quelle-quantite-d...
    - rob74 2y ago
      The first link is a fruit yoghurt, which besides fruit, aromas etc. also contains sugar. As for the second link, if people add sugar to their yoghurt, that's their decision - but the fact remains that "plain" yoghurt bought in the store in Europe usually doesn't contain (added) sugar.
  - atwrk 2y ago
    Pure yoghurt naturally already contains 3-4 g of sugar (lactose) per 100 g.
    - FooBarBizBazz 2y ago
      Yeah, people forget about milk sugars. Low-fat milk still has calories for this reason. But the glycemic index is worse. Whole milk in smaller quantities is better.
  - addicted 2y ago
    It looks like this entire thread is people who haven’t even read the article and are just spewing their preconceived notions (par for the course for the “carbs are evil” crew). It’s a study on Finnish children. It has nothing to do with Americans. I don’t know whether or not their yogurts tend to be sugary but nothing mentioned by anyone commenting on this thread has anything to do with the study. This is a far better link with quotes from the researchers and others pointing out how this is extremely preliminary at best (not even peer reviewed yet, and even once it gets past peer review, it’s simply observational and cannot establish causation). https://www.newsweek.com/type-1-diabetes-child-diet-nutrition-research-food-1949941 https://www.newsweek.com/type-1-diabetes-child-diet-nutritio...
  - globular-toast 2y ago
    There is sugar in yoghurt: lactose. It's about 1/10 as sweet as sucrose (table sugar) so you might not be aware it's there. If the yoghurt is low fat then it has proportionally more sugar. There are no "low carb" yoghurts. Sweet yoghurt is definitely not an American thing. Up until the last 10-15 years it was quite hard to find unsweetened yoghurt in either the UK or much of Europe. In France it was particularly hard as they seemed to prefer sweetened set yoghurt. In Spain that's still the default as of quite recently.
  - jjallen 2y ago
    Here in Switzerland the yogurt has tons of sweeteners added. This is joy only an American problem. Other countries trail in obesity and diabetes but are quickly catching up.
    - thomasmg 2y ago
      In Switzerland, we have yogurt with and without sugar, with and without sweeteners, with and without lactose, etc. You can buy 319 different yogurts in the supermarket: https://www.coop.ch/de/search/?text=yogurt https://www.coop.ch/de/search/?text=yogurt I remember when I lived in the United States, you basically had "fat free" (with lots of sugar) and "greek" (with a little bit of fat, in addition to the sugar). That was 20 years ago, so it might have changed since then.
  - xenospn 2y ago
    In America, they add sugar to the sugar. You literally cannot escape it. I have a sneaking suspicion they add it to tap water.
- dragonwriter 2y ago
  Greek (strained; or, in the US, often thickened with thickening agents) yoghurt just (ideally, if it is actually strained and not thickened) has less whey, which slightly reduces the amount of sugar, but isn't a huge difference. The big difference is between plain (unsweetened) and sweetened yoghurts, which is a dichotomy that applies the same to strained as unstrained yoghurts. And it has little to do with the subject of the study, anyway.
  - FooBarBizBazz 2y ago
    > often thickened with thickening agents This is why low-fat "yogurt" is an abomination. It pretends to be yogurt but it isn't. You can compare the same brand on the refrigerator shelf; the ingredients list for the whole-fat will be like "milk, cultures", but the low-fat's ingredient list will be many lines long. Just get the real thing, know how calorie-dense it is, and don't eat too much of it. It'll taste better too.
addicted 2y ago
There’s no evidence this has anything to do with carbohydrates. Why would you think carbs have anything to do with an increased risk of Type 1 diabetes?
- darkhorn 2y ago
  Diabet is related with obesity and obesity is caused by consuming lots of carbonhydrates.
  - stranded22 2y ago
    Type 1 diabetes is NOT related to obesity AT ALL. as per the article - T1D causation is a mixture of genetics and unknown factors. T1D and T2D are two separate conditions that share a similar name.
    - InMice 2y ago
      > T1D and T2D are two separate conditions that share a similar name. Not exactly. As you probably know, Type 1 diabetes involves no insulin production. Type 2 involves extreme, excessive insulin production. But at some point for some type 2 diabetics their pancreas can actually become so overworked it "gives out" and becomes incapable of producing insulin. They then actually become Type 1 diabetics and require insulin replacement to survive. Likewise, a doctor can prescribe insulin to a type 2 diabetic who's pancreas is still working (and without even ever testing their insulin responses) - which some argue should never be done because it only makes the insulin problem worse. Type 2 diabetes is completely reversible for probably most people via diet and lifestyle changes. But in the "chronic management" model of care extreme type 2 diabetics run the risk of becoming type 1 diabetics by being prescribed supplemental insulin.
      - stranded22 2y ago
        Thanks. T2D involves extreme excessive insulin production? That would surely put the person into hypoglycaemia and losing significant weight whereas the stereotypical T2D is hyperglycaemia, and overweight. I was under the impression that it is the opposite, that the pancreas can’t produce enough insulin (or the body resists it) and so glucose levels are difficult to get down. Metformin tablets slows down the glucose levels being pushed out by the liver. If that doesn’t work, then others try to increase insulin sensitivity.

Basic greek yogurt is guaranteed to be healthy due to low sugar content & fermentation. Yogurt in this context probably refers to some kiddy yogurts loaded with sugar and additives.

nimchimpsky 2y ago

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Ekaros 2y ago

One you mix with oats might have... That is adding sugary fruit/berry yogurt to make oats more palatable. Same goes for bananas.

carlmr 2y ago

The headline is missing type 1. Type 2 is the one that is usually caused by insulin resistance.

bni 2y ago

Yoghurt (with some exceptions) contain lots of sugar. Better to eat greek yoghurt or quark.

darkhorn 2y ago
Oh, Jesus Christ! Why they don't write sugary yogurt? I forgot that Americans were consuming yogurt with sugar. Normally there is no sugar in the yogurt. There is sugar only if you add it. In the Balkans and Central Asia yogurt is sold without adding sugar.
- dustincoates 2y ago
  It's not just Americans that add sugar to yogurt. [0][1] If you don't want to translate that, the second ingredient in the listing is sugar. The second link says that 50% of French people add sugar to the plain yogurt they buy from the store. 0: https://www.carrefour.fr/p/yaourt-fruits-mixes-brasse-carrefour-classic-3245412897993?t=36995 https://www.carrefour.fr/p/yaourt-fruits-mixes-brasse-carref... 1: https://www.cerin.org/breves-scientifiques/quelle-quantite-de-sucre-ajoute-t-on-dans-notre-yaourt-nature/ https://www.cerin.org/breves-scientifiques/quelle-quantite-d...
  - rob74 2y ago
    The first link is a fruit yoghurt, which besides fruit, aromas etc. also contains sugar. As for the second link, if people add sugar to their yoghurt, that's their decision - but the fact remains that "plain" yoghurt bought in the store in Europe usually doesn't contain (added) sugar.
- atwrk 2y ago
  Pure yoghurt naturally already contains 3-4 g of sugar (lactose) per 100 g.
  - FooBarBizBazz 2y ago
    Yeah, people forget about milk sugars. Low-fat milk still has calories for this reason. But the glycemic index is worse. Whole milk in smaller quantities is better.
- addicted 2y ago
  It looks like this entire thread is people who haven’t even read the article and are just spewing their preconceived notions (par for the course for the “carbs are evil” crew). It’s a study on Finnish children. It has nothing to do with Americans. I don’t know whether or not their yogurts tend to be sugary but nothing mentioned by anyone commenting on this thread has anything to do with the study. This is a far better link with quotes from the researchers and others pointing out how this is extremely preliminary at best (not even peer reviewed yet, and even once it gets past peer review, it’s simply observational and cannot establish causation). https://www.newsweek.com/type-1-diabetes-child-diet-nutrition-research-food-1949941 https://www.newsweek.com/type-1-diabetes-child-diet-nutritio...
- globular-toast 2y ago
  There is sugar in yoghurt: lactose. It's about 1/10 as sweet as sucrose (table sugar) so you might not be aware it's there. If the yoghurt is low fat then it has proportionally more sugar. There are no "low carb" yoghurts. Sweet yoghurt is definitely not an American thing. Up until the last 10-15 years it was quite hard to find unsweetened yoghurt in either the UK or much of Europe. In France it was particularly hard as they seemed to prefer sweetened set yoghurt. In Spain that's still the default as of quite recently.
- jjallen 2y ago
  Here in Switzerland the yogurt has tons of sweeteners added. This is joy only an American problem. Other countries trail in obesity and diabetes but are quickly catching up.
  - thomasmg 2y ago
    In Switzerland, we have yogurt with and without sugar, with and without sweeteners, with and without lactose, etc. You can buy 319 different yogurts in the supermarket: https://www.coop.ch/de/search/?text=yogurt https://www.coop.ch/de/search/?text=yogurt I remember when I lived in the United States, you basically had "fat free" (with lots of sugar) and "greek" (with a little bit of fat, in addition to the sugar). That was 20 years ago, so it might have changed since then.
- xenospn 2y ago
  In America, they add sugar to the sugar. You literally cannot escape it. I have a sneaking suspicion they add it to tap water.
dragonwriter 2y ago
Greek (strained; or, in the US, often thickened with thickening agents) yoghurt just (ideally, if it is actually strained and not thickened) has less whey, which slightly reduces the amount of sugar, but isn't a huge difference. The big difference is between plain (unsweetened) and sweetened yoghurts, which is a dichotomy that applies the same to strained as unstrained yoghurts. And it has little to do with the subject of the study, anyway.
- FooBarBizBazz 2y ago
  > often thickened with thickening agents This is why low-fat "yogurt" is an abomination. It pretends to be yogurt but it isn't. You can compare the same brand on the refrigerator shelf; the ingredients list for the whole-fat will be like "milk, cultures", but the low-fat's ingredient list will be many lines long. Just get the real thing, know how calorie-dense it is, and don't eat too much of it. It'll taste better too.

addicted 2y ago

There’s no evidence this has anything to do with carbohydrates. Why would you think carbs have anything to do with an increased risk of Type 1 diabetes?

darkhorn 2y ago
Diabet is related with obesity and obesity is caused by consuming lots of carbonhydrates.
- stranded22 2y ago
  Type 1 diabetes is NOT related to obesity AT ALL. as per the article - T1D causation is a mixture of genetics and unknown factors. T1D and T2D are two separate conditions that share a similar name.
  - InMice 2y ago
    > T1D and T2D are two separate conditions that share a similar name. Not exactly. As you probably know, Type 1 diabetes involves no insulin production. Type 2 involves extreme, excessive insulin production. But at some point for some type 2 diabetics their pancreas can actually become so overworked it "gives out" and becomes incapable of producing insulin. They then actually become Type 1 diabetics and require insulin replacement to survive. Likewise, a doctor can prescribe insulin to a type 2 diabetic who's pancreas is still working (and without even ever testing their insulin responses) - which some argue should never be done because it only makes the insulin problem worse. Type 2 diabetes is completely reversible for probably most people via diet and lifestyle changes. But in the "chronic management" model of care extreme type 2 diabetics run the risk of becoming type 1 diabetics by being prescribed supplemental insulin.
    - stranded22 2y ago
      Thanks. T2D involves extreme excessive insulin production? That would surely put the person into hypoglycaemia and losing significant weight whereas the stereotypical T2D is hyperglycaemia, and overweight. I was under the impression that it is the opposite, that the pancreas can’t produce enough insulin (or the body resists it) and so glucose levels are difficult to get down. Metformin tablets slows down the glucose levels being pushed out by the liver. If that doesn’t work, then others try to increase insulin sensitivity.