Lifting for appearance might be a decent goal in general (not a specific look that may or may not be attainable), but all this does is let that be decided by wh

Lifting for appearance might be a decent goal in general (not a specific look that may or may not be attainable), but all this does is let that be decided by whoever's watching, rather than potentially giving them a gun or needle to shoot themselves with. It's also often just total bs. That fellow's opinion in that short segment seems fine enough, but he's just saying that it's good to work out and get stronger, and that it'll probably help you stave off depression (also somewhat dubious in the context of this subthread, even though I'd agree). He's not saying why I should have six pack abs, or 3d shoulders, which are all vanity driven and potentially obsession creating. It's a pretty subtle difference. I don't agree that lifting for appearance is something to promote to teens, because it just starts from a place of banking off perceived anxiety about one's image, and I tend to find that people who are mostly concerned about their image, tend to kind of suck. That's just different than talking about how working out will help you feel better by being stronger, being more capable, and yes potentially more attractive. It's like gambling advertising imo.